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Shaq over "The Dream"?

My list would be - Top 5 centers of all-time.

1. Russell
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Hakeem
5. Shaq

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Deke

kareem was always lucky to land on a team ready to win from the start though, and he lasted a very longtime. i'd put him on top 5 alltime but he wasnt half the defender a center should be, one of greatest offensive centers though. Wilt was a much better defender and could make his own shot so i wouldnt consider Kareem better then him. Kareem lasted a very long time and thats why he has all those scoring records. a great player but not greatest center.

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ralaw

I believe they are interchangable. In there prime they both were the clear-cut best during their time. I wish we could have seen a Shaq in his prime vs. a Olajuwon is his prime.

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kflo

kareem was drafted by a team that won 27 games. they won 56 games his rookie season. and kareem was a dominant defender / rebounder in his prime (and remained an strong defender his entire career).

Deke

Kareem was a semi-dominate rebounder, but thats not all of defense. im not sayin he was a terrible defender but comparin him to what you want your allstar center to rebound like it wasnt impressive. and i compared him to shaq and ya any time u add a allstar center to a allstar guard your gonna get results. im not sayin hes bad just not the best.

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PauloCatarino

What team? the Bucks?

Check out Jabbar's All-defense selections.

"Make is own shot"? and Kareem couldn´t?

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Deke

how many times did kareem shoot a field goal or a 3? how many times did wilt? that my point on the shot. i dont think u ever watched kareem play by that stupid comment.

and the bucks, hell ya the bucks. Oscar Robertson scorin 30 PPG, it needed 1 more to become a great team and kareem was exactly what it needed.

and u ever watch NBA in 80s? did NBA all-defense really mean anything back then? how much defense did you see with people scorin 120 PPG in every playoff game?

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kflo

he finished in the top 5 in rpg 9 times in his career. 9 times top 3 in blocks, although you could surely add another 4 years where blocks weren't recorded. he was a strong defender.

kflo

not sure what you're saying about kareems ability to create his own shot. again, he was the best post scorer ever, imo. he could create his own shot against anyone.

robertson was traded to the bucks after kareem had already converted them from a 27 win team to a 56 win team.

did guys like jordan and hakeem play defense in the 80s? moncrief? cooper? eaton?

Deke

posting up is barely creatin your own shot. he was a great offensive center but u cant compare him to wilt.

Kareem still had Flynn Robinson and Jon Mcglocklin before Oscar Robertson so it aint like the team wasnt built for a big man to dominate.

and 80s basketball wasnt defined by defense other then rebounds. im not sayin there was completely no defense but compared to today? today its nearly impossible to score 30 PPG unless u take 50 shots per game.

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