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Old 12-13-2005, 04:52 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

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Because he was white. Otherwise he would have just been another average player.
Reverse "white" with "black", and people would call that racism.

He was great because he wasn't talented. But he played with all his heart. Something that many, many young players (Stromile Swift) should learn.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:11 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

Bird was a gifted shooter, was smart, had intangibles, had heart, determination and was a competitor. Actually I believe Bird was talented, but not in an athletic way, but from a basketball knowledge way.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:49 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

The only thing I haven't seen anyone else say is Bird's work ethic. He was obsessed with practicing.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:26 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

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I cannot believe this. Damning him with faint praise because he was white.

Bird's career Eff rating 29.77
Magic's career eff rating 29.10
Jordan's career eff rating 29.19

Facts arethat coloutr blind stats, the objective measure make his the greatest player of his generation black white green or yellow. Saying a man who played at just short of 30 eff rating throughout his career, won championships, was an e ver presint All star when fit and 9 straing all League teams was highly thought of cos he was white is simply not fair. We all have our subjective opinions but Objectively he was better than jordan.
Bird also played on much better teams than Jordan so I don't buy into that logic (EITHER).
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:32 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Bird also played on much better teams than Jordan so I don't buy into that logic (EITHER).
I actually believe the Jordan of 86 to 93 was a better player than Larry but I make the efficiency point to counter the argument which was incredibly put that had Larry not been white his career would be viewed as average. Bizarre for a man with better career figures than more or lass anyone. Average only if we view the likes of Magic and MJ as average as well.

I suppose we could say he was just your average 12 time all-star, 9 time All NBA, 3 time MVP undisputed leader of one of the greatest dynasties the game has seen.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:03 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

i always thought he had a amazing "gretzky" like ability to see the whole floor. they used to say that gretzky not only knew where the puck was, but where it was going to be.

off the charts bball IQ.

combined with great court vision. fundamentals. skills. work ethic.

and the most important. he just had a KILLER instinct. like murderous killer instinct.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:50 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

6'9" and could shoot and pass with the best of them. Not too many 6'9" players could do what he did back then. Put that on top of his great hands, basketball IQ, and will to win and he was one of a kind.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:01 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

Bird's statline from 86-87...

28.1 ppg (.525 fg%, .400 3p%)
9.2 rpg
7.6 apg

Yeah...just another player...
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:23 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: What made Larry Bird one of the greatest ever?

Someone said Bird didn't have talent? Wow.
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