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Gilgamesh · 05-02-2006, 08:26 PM

This post is so damn good.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ralaw again.

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Originally Posted by ralaw

In my opinion Bias was a good player. I also believe much of his legend has been overrated since his death. Yes, he had all of the attributes that we associate with greatness, but who is to say he would have improved any more from where he already was? What was his ceiling? How would he have developed? What kind of work ethic did he have? How would he have responed to the money?

The problem with the argument of Jordan vs. Bias is in one argument you are arguing fact and in the other you are arguing fiction. Not to mention the argument is flawed as well due to the fact that you would be using the standard set by Jordan to argue Bias being greater. Having seen what Jordan accomplished it is too easy to assume Bias would have accomplished more. In my opinion there is too many variables that go unanswered before we could even consider a Michael vs. Bias discussion.

**Minstrel** · 11-13-2006, 09:04 PM

Legends grow when death is involved. That's always the case.

Bias most likely wouldn't have become what Jordan did. The chances of any player becoming the best ever are tiny.

That said, Bias did appear to have the talent to potentially challenge Jordan as the game's best player. He was as dynamic as Dominique Wilkins, but with more power, better handles and better passing. Really, there isn't a very good direct comparison for him that has played in the NBA. Maybe a prime Shawn Kemp who could shoot like a guard. Lithe, quick and ferociously powerful.

It was a pretty incredible package.

ez8o5 · 11-13-2006, 11:18 PM

welll in order to be the greatest or a greater bball player than jordan i think he would have to have a great basketball IQ and someone who's dumb enough to try coke wouldnt be able to accomplish that

**jmk** · 11-14-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ez8o5

welll in order to be the greatest or a greater bball player than jordan i think he would have to have a great basketball IQ and someone who's dumb enough to try coke wouldnt be able to accomplish that

What a brilliant analysis. Too bad it doesn't even work for Michael Jordan, himself. Nice try, though. Next time try using some sense.

dwade3 · 11-14-2006, 02:33 AM

by the sounds of it Len Bias was Lebron before there was a Lebron....??? powerful, a great passer, scoring/dunking ability......

dwade3 · 11-14-2006, 03:54 AM

and i just saw a couple of clips on youtube, and by the looks of it, dude would of eaten the NBA fo real, damn he could shoot the 3, inside, 18footer (in your face by the way), dunk. I could definetly say having Len Bias on that Boston team......that would of changed the landscape of the NBA as we know it, and whoever said he wouldnt get the ball because of Danny Ainge and Bird, ***** PUH-LEASE!!! thats basically saying u would rather Bird or Ainge have it instead of Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant....i would rather Bird in the clutch a lot but Ainge??? r u serious Bias would shoot ainges lights out and dunk on his *** too.....

Ive always been attracted to the Len Bias Legend bandwagon, but i never actually seen him play....now that i have he reminds me a lot of the LeBron/Nique mold with a beautiful shot and shotblocking abilities....i doubt the Detroit Bad boys could of stopped the Celtics machine and this really is the factor that would of changed the landscape, not the LB vs MJ thing.....

kflo · 11-14-2006, 09:32 AM

he was pointing out that bias would have come off the bench for the celts at first, with bird at the 3 and ainge at the 2. i don't think bias really would have played much if at all at the 2. he would have been in the frontcourt rotation with bird, parish and mchale. and any 3 of them could play together at the same time. he would obviously have had playing time.

and i'll reiterate the cummings/wilkins comparison.

11-14-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The MAMBA

Len Bias in college, was about as COLD as they come. Many projected him to be as good as Mike, with just as much athleticism, but with an even better jumper. Those young kats around here may not know about him, but to the people here who saw him play...how do you think he would've stacked up? That Celts/Bulls rivalry would have been intense with Jordan v.s. Bias. It's an unfortunate occurance that he died, but how would you have saw him panning out if he ever got to compete in the NBA?

As cold as he was in college, Len got a lot colder on June 19, 1986.

neoxsupreme · 11-14-2006, 11:09 AM

Len was a good passer. Just a good 1. Nowhere near as good as LeBron is though @ passing. The only comparison I see between them is that they are both really strong & athletic. Also Bias was 1 of the top shot-blockers in his final yr in college. He had better defensive instincts than LeBron did atleast help side. I also think Len is also a little bit superior in the rebounding department. Kind of like a Larry Johnson type of rebounder.

kflo · 11-14-2006, 11:16 AM

bias averaged 0.4 bpg as a senior. he blocked 14 shots. he averaged 7 rpg as a senior in 37 mpg. lj averaged 11 in 32 mpg (people forget how much of a freak lj was).

**jmk** · 11-14-2006, 12:50 PM

I just watched a tribute video to Len for the first time in a couple months. They always make me tear up.

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