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Old 07-11-2006, 01:05 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

Theres no way he benched 550, even some of the best body builders cant do that.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

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Those tapes don't really show how athletic he is. I'm not denying that Wilt is one of the best ever, but until I see something, I'm just taking someone else's word for it. I doubt anyone on this site has been watching basketball since Wilt Chamberlain times.
I hope someone that watched Wilt isn't on here. They'd have to be over 75 by now (assuming they watched him when they were in their 20's). They better have other things to do and be taking it easy.

I can understand why you wouldn't be skeptical. I've seen videos which definitely showed his athleticism. His foot speed was amazing, he was also extremely coordinated. He ran the floor like a deer.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Thats just untrue.

Ok let me take the year 1965, just a random pick but it was right in the middle of the period that Wilt dominated. There were 9 teams in the league . He changed teams mid year but here are the centers he would be playing against each different team.

Celtics: Bill Russell
Royals: Jerry Lucas
76ers: Luke Jackson (you may not have heard of him but he was an all star that year)
Knicks: Willis Reed
Lakers: Rudy LaRusso (again you may not have heard of him but he was a 5 time all star)
Hawks: Bob Pettit/Zelmo Beatty
Bullets: Walt Bellamy
Pistons: Dave DeBusschere wouldve guarded him probably
Warriors: Nate Thurmond

So out of 9 teams he'd have faced a hall of famer against 7 of them, and an all star level player against the other two.
Yep.

It's really annoying to keep reading posts scrutinizing Wilt's opposition especially when he played against more HOF centers than Shaq has.
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Old 07-12-2006, 01:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

i will guarantee you wilt did not bench 550 pounds while a 20 year old rookie. his vertical, i guarantee you was not 48 inches. he was fast, strong, and could jump high, but don't believe the stuff that makes him out to be superman. put those numbers down to even 350 and 35 and you've still got pretty much an unprecedented athlete, even today (at 7'1). back then, it's simply absurd.
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I hope someone that watched Wilt isn't on here. They'd have to be over 75 by now (assuming they watched him when they were in their 20's). They better have other things to do and be taking it easy.

I can understand why you wouldn't be skeptical. I've seen videos which definitely showed his athleticism. His foot speed was amazing, he was also extremely coordinated. He ran the floor like a deer.
Really? You have any links? Youtube doesn't have much.
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

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i will guarantee you wilt did not bench 550 pounds while a 20 year old rookie. his vertical, i guarantee you was not 48 inches. he was fast, strong, and could jump high, but don't believe the stuff that makes him out to be superman. put those numbers down to even 350 and 35 and you've still got pretty much an unprecedented athlete, even today (at 7'1). back then, it's simply absurd.
Agreed. 550 is probably impossible/near impossible for a 7 footer.

With a 48 inch vertical, his head would be a foot above the rim for rebounds. There have been no accounts or proof of that. I have seen black and white photos/footage of him and there was no way he had a 48 inch vertical. High jump does not equate to vertical.

350 and 35 would make him a 7 foot, 280 pound Amare Stoudemire, isn't that enough for a legendary athlete?
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

i don't doubt that ultimately he was benching more than 350 either. just not when he was in his early career days.
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

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Celtics: Bill Russell 6-9, 215
Royals: Jerry Lucas 6-8, 230
76ers: Luke Jackson 6-9, 240
Knicks: Willis Reed 6-9, 235
Lakers: Rudy LaRusso 6-7, 220
Hawks: Bob Pettit 6-9, 205
Bullets: Walt Bellamy 6-11, 225
Pistons: Dave DeBusschere 6-6, 220
Warriors: Nate Thurmond 6-11, 225
Have no idea how accurate these stats are from basketball-reference but man these guys are small and the two guy close to 7 feet are very thin
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

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Celtics: Bill Russell 6-9, 215
Royals: Jerry Lucas 6-8, 230
76ers: Luke Jackson 6-9, 240
Knicks: Willis Reed 6-9, 235
Lakers: Rudy LaRusso 6-7, 220
Hawks: Bob Pettit 6-9, 205
Bullets: Walt Bellamy 6-11, 225
Pistons: Dave DeBusschere 6-6, 220
Warriors: Nate Thurmond 6-11, 225

Have no idea how accurate these stats are from basketball-reference but man these guys are small and the two guy close to 7 feet are very thin
That's exactly why people like us scrutinize Wilt's competition.
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: The Greatest NBA Athlete?

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Theres no way he benched 550, even some of the best body builders cant do that.
Body builders, no. But powerlifters easily. Body builders are all show, no go compared to powerlifters.
But i would guess his 1 rep max at about 425-475 range.
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Have no idea how accurate these stats are from basketball-reference but man these guys are small and the two guy close to 7 feet are very thin
Sun Ming Ming is 7'9 and 450 pounds he will put pwnge and ownage on Shaq he have 8 inches and 100 pounds on Shaq
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