View Poll Results: Best SF ever
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King James
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Pippen
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09-05-2006, 09:41 AM
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#136 (permalink)
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Re: Best SF of all time
To anyone who saw him in ABA then in NBA, yes . . . like saying Michael Jordan's prime occurred with the Wizards.
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09-17-2006, 07:16 AM
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#137 (permalink)
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Rehttp://www.basketballboards.net/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply: Best SF of all time
Way too many things to try to quote them all, so some thoughts.
First, comparing stats between eras is really tough. The NBA was simply a different game in 1965, and for that matter, 1995, than now.
For his career, I suspect Bird is #1 at SF, and Lebron has a shot at the title, although a lot can happen.
I was a (mildly interested) Pistons fan in Pippin's prime, and the Chicago rivalry was nearly all about Jordan. Pippin was good, but I never thought of him as better than Hill, or the Bad Boys in general (can't think of who their SF would be). I would take Ben Wallace (who is, after all, shorter) over him on defense any time. Perimeter, interior, or team. Wallace guarded Shaq one on one, and on switches, successfully contained Tony Parker. Plus, his help defense is legendary. He's not a SF, and not (obviously) an offensive force, but it puts the defense in perspective. As far as offense, last year Mike James averaged 20 per game, and he obviously wasn't the best player on the team.
Erving was a little before I had major interest, but he was revolutionary. He changed the game, like Wilt and Magic did.
Finally, I maintain that Wilt was the best individual player the NBA has ever seen. If you crossed the best of Yao and Amare, and threw in the ability to lead the league in assists as a C, you get some idea. In 1962 he averaged 25 and 12 per half.
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10-01-2006, 11:17 PM
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#138 (permalink)
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Re: Best SF of all time
Bad options.
Bird easily.
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10-01-2006, 11:23 PM
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#139 (permalink)
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Re: Best SF of all time
Lebron needs like 3 MVPs, 3 championships, and basically be an all-time great and legend... to topple Bird.
He has a good chance, but at this point.. Lebron cannot be better than Bird.
Bird = top 5 greatest/best players of all time
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10-01-2006, 11:28 PM
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#140 (permalink)
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Re: Best SF of all time
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just because lebron can't shoot like bird doesn't make him a worse player. bird isn't the passer lebron is. and who is to say lebron can't rebound like bird? he as damn near 20 years left in his career.
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sorry... wrong.
Bird is comparable to some of the best playmakers of all time in terms of passing... and this guy is 6'9.
LeBron is a good passer however dont get me wrong...
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10-01-2006, 11:36 PM
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Re: Best SF of all time
Larry Bird is the perfect example of "basketball" talent.
He knows the game inside out, knows how to dominate it without 40+ vertical leaping ability, 300 pound body mass, sprinter-level foot speed... etc.
The guy plays well, because he has mastered every aspect of the game by knowledge of the game and basketball-specific skills/talent.
I dont even need to justify him... its like trying to explain why wheels are circular rather than square.
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10-02-2006, 06:43 PM
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#142 (permalink)
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Re: Best SF of all time
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Larry Bird is the perfect example of "basketball" talent.
He knows the game inside out, knows how to dominate it without 40+ vertical leaping ability, 300 pound body mass, sprinter-level foot speed... etc.
The guy plays well, because he has mastered every aspect of the game by knowledge of the game and basketball-specific skills/talent.
I dont even need to justify him... its like trying to explain why wheels are circular rather than square.
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Liked this Larry Bird prop up (sp?). It sums up adequately how Larry Bird played...
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10-08-2006, 10:30 PM
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Re: Best SF of all time
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I suck at poll questions
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Correct answer.
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10-08-2006, 10:32 PM
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This one's for you, Chick
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Re: Best SF of all time
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bird isn't the passer lebron is.
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lmfao.
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Originally Posted by Adol
Is this thread a joke? Larry Bird!
You should be banned.
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Bump.
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10-08-2006, 10:37 PM
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#145 (permalink)
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Re: Best SF of all time
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Originally Posted by 1 Penny
Lebron needs like 3 MVPs, 3 championships, and basically be an all-time great and legend... to topple Bird.
He has a good chance, but at this point.. Lebron cannot be better than Bird.
Bird = top 5 greatest/best players of all time
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Dont forget he needs to be white
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I was a (mildly interested) Pistons fan in Pippin's prime
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You obiously werent interested enough to get his name right
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