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11-11-2006, 03:19 PM
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
exactly.
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11-11-2006, 03:35 PM
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
This should be a topic about two very contrasting, but highly successful styles. Instead, it's a hate-fest with two of the greatest, most well-decorated players of any generation. Go figure. 
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11-11-2006, 08:19 PM
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This one's for you, Chick
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
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Originally Posted by da bully
its like i said in a previous post laker fans are strictly emotional and cant have a real debate about basketball, i asked you at least 4 times if you can rebutal my question as far as thomas getting injured and loosing in the 88 final and you refuse to respond. obviously , you know im right and cant admit that you like alot of other laker fans cant respond to common sense.
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Apparently do not attack other posters; this has nothing to do with the 88 Lakers-Pistons Finals, he was talking about the 91 Bulls-Pistons ECF.
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11-11-2006, 08:38 PM
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This one's for you, Chick
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
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Jordan is the greatest ever, Chamberlain and Russell are the only ones you could possibly argue were greater, but I don't think so. And he wasn't a better player than Magic? You'd have to be the biggest HOMER to believe that.
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No, you just have to know your NBA history. Chamberlain and Russell? Firstly, did you ever see Wilt play? No. Secondly, to not even mention Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in the discussion, who has just as many MVPs, titles, and many more All NBA 1st teams than Jordan, is quite frankly a gross oversight. Thirdly, you can make a very good case for Magic as GOAT; namely his 3 MVPs, Finals MVPs, statistics, impact on his teammates, and certainly his overall team success (5 titles, 9 NBA Finals in 12 years).
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11-11-2006, 09:03 PM
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
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Apparently you're reading comprehension isn't very good; this has nothing to do with the 88 Lakers-Pistons Finals, he was talking about the 91 Bulls-Pistons ECF. Get it through your skull.
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no , my reading is fine. if you read all the posts paulo and i have written, you would see that he believes that the lakers loss to the bulls mainly because because of james worthy being injured and not because they (the bulls) were the better team. he also says that the pistons were swept by the bulls because they were too old and i think dumars had an injured foot. i replied that if thats his belief then he also should question the lakers beating the pistons in 88 because isaih thomas had a terrible ankle sprain. and he overlooks this. all i want is to see is some consistency. he refuses to reply so i suspect that he knows this to be true but because he is a laker fan does not want to discuss it, because it would make his team look bad.
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11-11-2006, 09:45 PM
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This one's for you, Chick
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
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no , my reading is fine. if you read all the posts paulo and i have written, you would see that he believes that the lakers loss to the bulls mainly because because of james worthy being injured and not because they (the bulls) were the better team.
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Paulo's last post in this thread: "AGAIN, and all together now: THE BULLS NEVER WON AGAINST A PRIME PISTONS SQUAD!!!!".
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he also says that the pistons were swept by the bulls because they were too old and i think dumars had an injured foot. i replied that if thats his belief then he also should question the lakers beating the pistons in 88 because isaih thomas had a terrible ankle sprain. and he overlooks this. all i want is to see is some consistency. he refuses to reply so i suspect that he knows this to be true but because he is a laker fan does not want to discuss it, because it would make his team look bad.
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Your comparison to another series is irrelavent and deflects from the main topic at hand.
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11-12-2006, 01:28 AM
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
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No, you just have to know your NBA history. Chamberlain and Russell? Firstly, did you ever see Wilt play? No. Secondly, to not even mention Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in the discussion, who has just as many MVPs, titles, and many more All NBA 1st teams than Jordan, is quite frankly a gross oversight. Thirdly, you can make a very good case for Magic as GOAT; namely his 3 MVPs, Finals MVPs, statistics, impact on his teammates, and certainly his overall team success (5 titles, 9 NBA Finals in 12 years).
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I have Abdul-Jabbar 4th, behind Jordan, Chamberlain, and Russell. I guess Oscar Robertson would be 5th and Magic 6th, with Bird 7th, right behind Magic, it's close between those two.
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11-12-2006, 03:59 AM
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
I'd take Kobe over both of them.
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11-12-2006, 07:41 AM
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Re: Magic or Jordan? Which had more impact on there own team?
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Paulo's last post in this thread: "AGAIN, and all together now: THE BULLS NEVER WON AGAINST A PRIME PISTONS SQUAD!!!!".
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Oh, and may i add that the Bulls never won against a prime Celtics squad?
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11-12-2006, 07:46 AM
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I'd take Kobe over both of them.
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Umm ok. Too bad mods can't use ignore
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11-12-2006, 07:54 AM
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