PauloCatarino

I didn't understand your post, young grasshopper... Please elaborate and i'll then make you see the light...

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Minstrel

He was definitely an efficient scorer. But a lot of that was because he was limited in how he could score and he picked his spots. That makes the shots he did take valuable, but he didn't take over games...he was a low volume scorer, and it's easier to keep up a higher efficiency when you shoot less.

I don't think being the most efficient perimeter scorer, by itself, makes him a Hall of Famer. Had he married that to also being a volume scorer (25-30 PPG on the best efficiency), then he'd definitely be a Hall of Famer. Had he married it with great passing skills, or maybe great defense or great rebounding, or some combination thereof, he'd have a stronger case.

As it is, he was entirely one-dimensional. He shot the ball. He shot it well and at opportune times, but he wasn't a take-over scorer. Efficiency isn't enough to overcome the complete lack of other contributions, IMO.

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OneBadLT123

ok,

From what I have read in your debates/discussions/assessments of players history/career/whatever... You tend to judge players a lot by their team success. If they never made it into the playoffs, they are career losers, if they don’t win in the playoffs, they are losers as well and so on...

I just read few posts up (the one i first quoted) that now when somebody was a winner in the playoffs (Reggie, sure he never got a ring, but his team was always in ECF, or semis at least) you sarcastically bring up "Cedric Maxwell, James Worthy, Joe Dumars and Chauncey freaking Billups are legends" implying that Reggie did great in the playoffs but isn’t a legend...

Reggie did it year after year for the Pacers, they were one of the few consistent teams in the 90's.
Maybe I just misunderstood your post

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PauloCatarino

Thanks for explaining...

I stand by my reasoning: regular season is good and all, but if you can't bring the goods on the playoffs, you got nothing to show for. That's the criteria i use regarding losers like T-Mac and KG. But only because they SHOULD do better.

Reggie is a whole new chapter. Few players in the history of the NBA upped their games when it counted the most (playoffs): i can recall West, Worthy and Reggie as consistent overachievers in the playoffs. For me, it's of great importance. And Reggie always delivered in the playoffs. It's like he was dorment (sp?) till they came around.

Guys like Maxwell, Billups and Dumars excelled once in a career. Reggie was much, much more consistent.

Reggie defied odds. Just like Magic playing Center, and Rodman defending Karl Malone and Shaq. H_e overcame odds. That's what makes him a spetial player to me. Guys that SHOULD overcame odds but don't are losers in my book (T-MAc and KG included).

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Minstrel

McGrady has some of the greatest playoff production ever. So you incorrectly use that criteria with him.

McGrady has consistently "brought the goods" in the playoffs, as his numbers are better in the playoffs than the regular season. He has consistently been one of the great playoff performers of his generation. Feel free to look it up. His team has simply never been as good as the team they're facing.

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PauloCatarino

If you are saying that Tracie Mc-Grady played a heck of (ONE) series here and there, i will agree.
But to say he's bee consistently "bringing it" it's something i find amusing.

Look it up? If i search deep may i find he has played more than a playoff round in a season?

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Wayne

This has gotta be a joke,

NBA leader in 3's, 12th in all-time scoring, synonymous with clutch, one of the best FT% shooters, 18 seasons with the same team and managing 18ppg throughout his career, went against 90s Bulls, Knicks and 00's Lakers

Thats a Hall of Famer bros

R-Star

People who dont think Reggie should be a HOF'er are the people who never watched him play.

R-Star

Not hard for TMac to put up huge stats in the playoffs when he was on a one man team.

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