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Re: Jordan the best EVER??? Im getting sick and tired of hearing
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David Thompson was a better college basketball player than Alcindor and that's all there is to it.Your argument is infantile and really not worthy of a response.Just say that you hate Jordan and you can't compose a rational argument for why Kareem was better.College is college and the NBA is not.
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Are you being real?
Thompson was great and I once read that he was the player Jordan most wanted to emulate growing up but Kareem belongs in the trinity of college greats after the 60s which includes Walton and Oscar.
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04-02-2007, 12:59 AM
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I'll take Wilt over Kareem. Let's not forget that Kareem played practically his entire career with the two greatest point guards of all-time.
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I would take Wilt over Kareem as well but Wilt played with many great players as well. As a Warrior his teammates included Arizin (who was like the Kobe of his day), Gola (HOF), Thurmond (HOF), and Guy Rodgers (who was an assists machine). As a Sixer he played with Greer (HOF), Cunningham (HOF), and Walker. As a Laker he played with Elgin (top 15), West (top 15 maybe top 10), Goodrich (HOF). So I think that is seven NBA top 50 players. Kareem also had a period in his career when he neither played with Oscar or Magic but he also didn't win jack in that time. IMO I take Magic over Wilt and Kareem. Yup I said it. Write it down. 
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04-02-2007, 02:44 PM
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Are you being real?
Thompson was great and I once read that he was the player Jordan most wanted to emulate growing up but Kareem belongs in the trinity of college greats after the 60s which includes Walton and Oscar.
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Bill Walton didn't really stand out from the crowd at all in 1960s college basketball, truth be told.
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04-02-2007, 03:39 PM
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Re: Jordan the best EVER??? Im getting sick and tired of hearing
Puhleeeze, Walton got so much press people had already crowned him an equal to Russell, Wilt, and Kareem before he ever played a game as a pro. He was the main man on the most dominant college team ever, even more dominant than Kareem's (arguably with better supporting cast).
Better to say Oscar didn't stand out as much, partially because he was playing SF, it was after he went pro and they moved him to PG that his true genius stood out, and partially because he played college at a time where there were really big names playing against him, Jerry lucas, Jerry West, etc. etc.
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04-02-2007, 04:19 PM
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Puhleeeze, Walton got so much press people had already crowned him an equal to Russell, Wilt, and Kareem before he ever played a game as a pro. He was the main man on the most dominant college team ever, even more dominant than Kareem's (arguably with better supporting cast).
Better to say Oscar didn't stand out as much, partially because he was playing SF, it was after he went pro and they moved him to PG that his true genius stood out, and partially because he played college at a time where there were really big names playing against him, Jerry lucas, Jerry West, etc. etc.
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I 100% stand by my statement that Walton did not stand out from the crowd in 1960s college basketball. Its almost like he wasn't even on the court.
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04-02-2007, 07:22 PM
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Jordan isnt the only player to play into his 40s. Kareem did this as well, and although he was playing with some great players he still put up solid numbers in limited minutes. I'm not saying anything about who between them is the better player, I'm just sick of people riding Jordans jock because he scored 20ppg when he was 39.
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In their 40's they're no longer really comparable. Jordan's averages are better then Kareems across the board by a decent margin.
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04-02-2007, 07:28 PM
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Are you being real?
Thompson was great and I once read that he was the player Jordan most wanted to emulate growing up but Kareem belongs in the trinity of college greats after the 60s which includes Walton and Oscar.
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Try asking someone who saw both of them play in college.I'll repeat it once and for all Thompson was the GOAT in college and this is the consensus opinion among those who actually saw him play.I'm willing to bet that John Wooden would agree.
Bill Walton isn't even top 15,and anyone who thinks so is crazier than him
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04-02-2007, 07:33 PM
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In their 40's they're no longer really comparable. Jordan's averages are better then Kareems across the board by a decent margin.
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Yeas, they were not comparable: Jordan was making a spetacle of himself; Kareem was starting for a championship-contending team.
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04-02-2007, 07:40 PM
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Yeas, they were not comparable: Jordan was making a spetacle of himself; Kareem was starting for a championship-contending team.
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You're trying to compare the Lakers to the Wizards ? Now that's funny.
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04-02-2007, 08:35 PM
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Re: Jordan the best EVER??? Im getting sick and tired of hearing
That's Paulo for you.
Jordan at 40 was more productive than Kareem at 40. Anyone who isn't biased could see that.
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