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Originally Posted by mysterio
Fair enough. But any way you slice it, the PER numbers don't indicate much difference and I admitted that they are not really a fair way to compare players. I shouldn't have even mentioned efficiency stats. One thing I know for sure is I'd never pick Duncan 's skillset over Hakeem's from what I've seen from both.
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1 or 2 points of advantage is considerably for a stat like PER... for example, a season with a PER of 28 is something very good, but a PER of 30+ is something great.. Only shaq, t-mac, jordan, david robinson and chamberlan have posted a PER of 30+.
In Rebound Rate both players are very close, i think RBR for olajuwon's first 10 seasons is something like 18.1 vs 18.3 of duncan, they are also very close in TS% with duncan holding a solid advantage in assists and olajuwon in blocks , steals and ppg.
Duncan however holds a big advantage as far as winning goes, he never have lost in the first round of the playoffs for example (well, the spurs lost vs the suns in the first round on 00, but duncan didn't played in that series due to a injury).
In 01 the spurs second offensive option was Derek anderson, he got injured in the playoffs and still he lead the spurs to the conference finals, where they lost vs shaq+kobe, if you complain about kenny smith being your 2nd best offensive player wait until you give that job to derek anderson.
In 02 the spurs lost derek anderson, so david robinson once again became the 2nd offensive option.. at the age of 36, and he averaged 12.2 ppg in the regular season. He only played 4 games in the playoffs due to injuries and averaged a whooping 4.5 ppg in those games. Despite this, the spurs reached the 2nd round where they lost against the lakers once again.
In 03 Robinson was on his last legs, and averaged 8.5 ppg and 7.8 in the playoffs. Parker was on his 2nd year in the league, and he became the spurs 2nd weapon at 20 years old. He was a pretty flawed player back then (hell, he has a lot of flaws right now) he wasn't nowhere near as good as creating his shot or getting to the basket, and he was a worst defender and weaker mentally, also inconsistent as hell. Still the spurs beat the lakers of shaq/kobe in the playoffs and managed to win their 2nd ring in the finals vs the Nets.
In these 3 years, duncan had as little as hakeem to work, and he got 1 ring, 1 conference finals, and 1 conference semifinals. Not a single 1st round loss.
hakeem vs. duncan
