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Old 12-06-2007, 07:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old Era vs New Era

There's two different era's in the NBA. The old era is from the 1950's 60's and 70's and the new era is from the 1980's 90's and now 2000. I know that the game is tottaly different but if they played a seven game series which era do you think would win? Here are a few players from the 50's, 60's and 70's if you don't know any: Bob Petit, Bill Walton, Oscar Robertson, John Havlichek, Nate Archibald, Bob Cousy and Pete Maravich to name a few. And I'm sure you all know players from the 80''s 90's and 2000 era. Once again i'd like to know why you picked that specific era.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Old Era vs New Era

Hey man,

Here's my thinking, by the way, I put the teams as I believe they would look:

I'd say New Era because they seem to have the better players, though the Old Era players are no slouches. It would definitely be a good game, but I think the NE players would have it by a nose. OE might be more skilled at shooting and rebounding, in my opinion, but NE has them in athleticism and intensity.

Old Era
C-Wilt Chamberlain
Alternates- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Russell
PF-Elgin Baylor
Alternates- Nate Thurmond and Bob Pettit
SF- John Havlicek
Alternates- Rick Barry and George Gervin
SG- Oscar Robertson
Alternates- Pete Maravich and Jerry West
PG- Bob Cousy
Alternates- Nate Archibald and Walt Frazier

New Era
C- Shaquille O'Neal
Alternates- Hakeem Olajuwon and Moses Malone
PF- Karl Malone
Alternates- Tim Duncan and Charles Barkley
SF- Larry Bird
Alternates- Julius Erving and Kevin Garnett
SG- Michael Jordan
Alternates- Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson
PG- Magic Johnson
Alternates- John Stockton and Isiah Thomas
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Old Era vs New Era

Assuming equal training, equipment, etc., the ones who get to pick the referee would win; differences in the game are largely built around that. Modern players would have trouble adapting to pre-3 point shot game, and visa versa.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm thinking the original Dream Team would take anyone's lunch money.

Charles Barkley
Larry Bird
Clyde Drexler
Patrick Ewing
Earvin "Magic" Johnson, Jr.
Michael Jordan
Karl Malone
Chris Mullin
Scottie Pippen
David Robinson
John Stockton

Christian Laettner wouldn't have made the team except for the collegiate inclusion.
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Old Era vs New Era

You mean as opposed to a weak team like 68?

Wilt Chamberlain
Bill Russell
Willlis Reed
Jerry Lucas
Dave DeBusschere
Elgin Baylor
Rick Barry
John Havlicek
Hal Greer
Jerry West
Oscar Robertson
if you need a rookie to match up with Laettner, use Walt Frazier
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Assuming equal training, equipment, etc., the ones who get to pick the referee would win; differences in the game are largely built around that. Modern players would have trouble adapting to pre-3 point shot game, and visa versa.
I'd have to agree with this. It's a subtle point that's often lost when comparing different eras.
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Modern players would win, hands down, because of their athleticism. The differences in athletes' physical abilities is ridiculous. Even when you look at players in the 80s, they are not remotely close to modern players in terms of fitness: strength, speed, agility, etc. The game has continued to evolve, and the players continually get better. There were no Kevin Garnetts in the 50s. Watch highlights and you can see the differences: slower players, weaker players, etc.

That said, if you picked 12 guys from each of the eras (by the way, there are more than two eras; I'd have divided history up into at least five, probably, but that is beside the point) and somehow were able to raise them from childhood under the same conditions, same training, same competition, same nutrition, etc., then the above would be a moot point. And so then ... I'd pick new, but just barely. Kareem, Russell and Wilt were great, and I believe would pretty much match up with Shaq, David Robinson and Hakeem. But a lineup that could include Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and Lebron James...there are no equals to those players. LeBron, at 6-8, 250, playing a wing? Oscar is the closest thing to him, and he was, what, 6-5?
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Re: Old Era vs New Era

I barely made it for the new era in my life. They get my vote.
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Modern players would win, hands down, because of their athleticism. The differences in athletes' physical abilities is ridiculous. Even when you look at players in the 80s, they are not remotely close to modern players in terms of fitness: strength, speed, agility, etc. The game has continued to evolve, and the players continually get better. There were no Kevin Garnetts in the 50s. Watch highlights and you can see the differences: slower players, weaker players, etc.

That said, if you picked 12 guys from each of the eras (by the way, there are more than two eras; I'd have divided history up into at least five, probably, but that is beside the point) and somehow were able to raise them from childhood under the same conditions, same training, same competition, same nutrition, etc., then the above would be a moot point. And so then ... I'd pick new, but just barely. Kareem, Russell and Wilt were great, and I believe would pretty much match up with Shaq, David Robinson and Hakeem. But a lineup that could include Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and Lebron James...there are no equals to those players. LeBron, at 6-8, 250, playing a wing? Oscar is the closest thing to him, and he was, what, 6-5?

Oscar played point, Magic and LeBron would have a height advantage over Oscar and Elgin Baylor (though today's measurements, both Oscar and Elgin would probably list at 6-7), but not a significant strength advantage and the defensive impact of Wilt/Russell at center over the weaker defensive pairing of Shaq/Hakeem would keep the bigger pair from gaining a significant postup advantage.

Again, give me the older crew if equipment/training/preparation are equal and we have the old time refs; Magic and Michael would have dribbling issues (palming on #23!), the acrobatic slashing to the rim ability of MJ would be greatly lessened by the difference in charge/block rules as well as the refs allowing undercutting and other techniques we now think of as clearly dirty and illegal, and the midrange shooting and stationary postup games of the older players would be enhanced while the open court wizardry and isolation breakdowns of the modern players would be lessened. Just like American teams now have problems with international rules despite our talent levels, the modern team, as great as it is, would have significant parts of its game taken away.
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