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Najee · 12-18-2010, 10:30 PM

Way to overdramatize. I didn't say Kevin Love was a horrible player. He sure as hell isn't Moses Malone or Kevin McHale, though.

That's why you're being mocked and blocked. Your ridiculous comparisons and other idiotic ramblings.

Minnesota is 6-22 this year with the immortal Love as the top player. A year ago at this time, Minnesota was 5-23 with the mere mortal Al Jefferson as its top player. So if Love is supposedly on the same plane with hall of famers, then why is there virtually no improvement in the T-Wolves' fate?

**someone** · 12-19-2010, 12:11 AM

So, let's summarize.

Kevin Love's post moves > Bill Russel's post moves

Kevin Loves offensive game > Bill Ruseel's offensive game

Kevin Love's defensive game > Bill Russell's defensive game

Kevin Love's rebounding > Bill Russell's rebounding

Kevin Love's passing > Bill Russell's passing

Kevin Love's blocking > Bill Russells blocking

OK we get it.

**someone** · 12-19-2010, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagsfan20

-Take away Rodman's rebounding and he's basically Bruce Bowen.

-Love could be like a Laimbeer and McHale on a title team. 2nd or 3rd option. You even agreed he plays like Laimbeer.

-If you put McHale on a roster like the Wolves current roster you think they'd be great? lol ok.

-I retracted the Malone comments. I admittely went overboard.

-Kareem was better than Malone.

I don't see how any of those a 'ridiculous ramblings'.

Your the one who got into the picture posting game to begin with.

Ok seriously, I just read this post.

Take away Rodman's rebounding and you get Bruce Bowen?

Well good job buddy. Rodman was a power forward and Bruce Bowen was a SG. Both Elite top notch defenders. By the way power forwards are supposed to rebound a tad bit better than SG's. Rodman was one of the best rebounders ever and he was also one of the best defensive players ever. Bruce Bowen is a damn good rebounder even at a very old age. I really don't see what your damn point is because what you say isn't even a ****ing insult ok so get your **** straight. Bruce Bowen while he isn't your boy Kobe bending colorado girls over chairs he's a damn good player and a damn good player, I player I know the Bulls could use dearly. So ok yeah. That is nothing to be snotty about alright boy.

zagsfan20 · 12-19-2010, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by someone

Ok seriously, I just read this post.

Take away Rodman's rebounding and you get Bruce Bowen?

Well good job buddy. Rodman was a power forward and Bruce Bowen was a SG. Both Elite top notch defenders. By the way power forwards are supposed to rebound a tad bit better than SG's. Rodman was one of the best rebounders ever and he was also one of the best defensive players ever. Bruce Bowen is a damn good rebounder even at a very old age. I really don't see what your damn point is because what you say isn't even a ****ing insult ok so get your **** straight. Bruce Bowen while he isn't your boy Kobe bending colorado girls over chairs he's a damn good player and a damn good player, I player I know the Bulls could use dearly. So ok yeah. That is nothing to be snotty about alright boy.

yeah, let's not say that

**Cinco de Mayo** · 12-19-2010, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagsfan20

Are you a retard?

Are YOU?

e-monk · 12-19-2010, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinco de Mayo

Are YOU?

have to take up for zags here surprisingly - that was a pretty retarded post

Najee · 12-19-2010, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-monk

have to take up for zags here surprisingly - that was a pretty retarded post

I think zagsfan is doing a great job of digging himself in large holes. I wonder if someone realizes Bruce Bowen is a 39-year-old retired ESPN analyst, though.

zagsfan20 · 12-19-2010, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinco de Mayo

Are YOU?

lol nice comeback...

Seriously, that post doesn't even make any sense. I like Kobe now? ok.

The guy must have been ****-faced drunk when he made that post.

**Luke** · 12-19-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by someone

Ok seriously, I just read this post.

Take away Rodman's rebounding and you get Bruce Bowen?

Well good job buddy. Rodman was a power forward and Bruce Bowen was a SG. Both Elite top notch defenders. By the way power forwards are supposed to rebound a tad bit better than SG's. Rodman was one of the best rebounders ever and he was also one of the best defensive players ever. Bruce Bowen is a damn good rebounder even at a very old age. I really don't see what your damn point is because what you say isn't even a ****ing insult ok so get your **** straight. Bruce Bowen while he isn't your boy Kobe bending colorado girls over chairs he's a damn good player and a damn good player, I player I know the Bulls could use dearly. So ok yeah. That is nothing to be snotty about alright boy.

What the hell are you trying to say? You realize Bowen is a retired small forward right? This has got to be a top five most incoherent (non ballscientist) post of the year.

**Dre** · 12-19-2010, 08:11 PM

Now I realize why I've never seen someone talk basketball before.

**Sir Patchwork** · 12-19-2010, 08:27 PM

Kevin Love is an awesome basketball player. He could be incredibly useful as a roleplayer on a championship team. He is not going to anchor any aspect of your team though. Some players like Mutombo, Wallace, and so on will anchor a defense and instantly make a team a defensive powerhouse. Some players like Barkley, Kobe, Amare and many others can anchor a teams offense and instantly create high quality shots through themselves and through drawing defensive attention. Some legendary players can anchor both sides (Shaquille, Duncan, Hakeem, etc).

Then there are roleplayers who put up huge numbers but are clearly the type to play off someone else rather than players playing off of them. These names include a prime Shawn Marion, Andrei Kirilenko, David Lee, and so on. They are good useful players, but shouldn't be overrated.

gi0rdun · 03-30-2012, 01:30 PM

This is as much as a bump as it is a serious discussion.

What do we see Kevin Love's ceiling as now? I have him 1a/1b with Dirk Nowitzki in a similar way as Kobe and LeBron used to be 1a/1b (I'd take Dirk/Kobe for a one year championship run, but Love/LeBron for anything else). He will probably be the best Power Forward in the league for at least the next 5 years. Despite his great numbers, I think his offensive game needs expanding and although he's not known for his defense, I don't think he's any worse than other top PFs like Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Webber, maybe even Charles Barkley.

Top 10 Power Forward of all time potential?

e-monk · 04-02-2012, 05:47 AM

probably could be but he still aint Moses Malone

also with all the deletions and non-sequitirs this thread is more f-ed up than a soup sandwich

Najee · 04-09-2012, 11:52 AM

Talk about a thread deliberately altered to take things out of context ...

doctordrizzay · 04-09-2012, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gi0rdun

This is as much as a bump as it is a serious discussion.

What do we see Kevin Love's ceiling as now? I have him 1a/1b with Dirk Nowitzki in a similar way as Kobe and LeBron used to be 1a/1b (I'd take Dirk/Kobe for a one year championship run, but Love/LeBron for anything else). He will probably be the best Power Forward in the league for at least the next 5 years. Despite his great numbers, I think his offensive game needs expanding and although he's not known for his defense, I don't think he's any worse than other top PFs like Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Webber, maybe even Charles Barkley.

Top 10 Power Forward of all time potential?

Love already gets double the rebounds Dirk averages and get more points than him too. Dirk may be a better shooter. But i would take Kevin Love allday

12-18-2010, 10:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Najee Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,036 Rep Power: 2718548	Re: Kevin Love versus historical greats Way to overdramatize. I didn't say Kevin Love was a horrible player. He sure as hell isn't Moses Malone or Kevin McHale, though. That's why you're being mocked and blocked. Your ridiculous comparisons and other idiotic ramblings. Minnesota is 6-22 this year with the immortal Love as the top player. A year ago at this time, Minnesota was 5-23 with the mere mortal Al Jefferson as its top player. So if Love is supposedly on the same plane with hall of famers, then why is there virtually no improvement in the T-Wolves' fate? __________________ And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that love survives and we'll rock forever. Last edited by Najee; 12-19-2010 at 11:28 AM.

12-19-2010, 12:11 AM	#17 (permalink)
someone loves the Bulls Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arkansas Age: 27 Posts: 13,081 Rep Power: 4296901	Re: Kevin Love versus historical greats So, let's summarize. Kevin Love's post moves > Bill Russel's post moves Kevin Loves offensive game > Bill Ruseel's offensive game Kevin Love's defensive game > Bill Russell's defensive game Kevin Love's rebounding > Bill Russell's rebounding Kevin Love's passing > Bill Russell's passing Kevin Love's blocking > Bill Russells blocking OK we get it.

12-19-2010, 08:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
Dre do better Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 25 Posts: 41,325 Rep Power: 21474887	Re: Kevin Love versus historical greats Now I realize why I've never seen someone talk basketball before.

12-19-2010, 08:27 PM	#26 (permalink)
Sir Patchwork MVP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Age: 28 Posts: 17,119 Rep Power: 13211371	Re: Kevin Love versus historical greats Kevin Love is an awesome basketball player. He could be incredibly useful as a roleplayer on a championship team. He is not going to anchor any aspect of your team though. Some players like Mutombo, Wallace, and so on will anchor a defense and instantly make a team a defensive powerhouse. Some players like Barkley, Kobe, Amare and many others can anchor a teams offense and instantly create high quality shots through themselves and through drawing defensive attention. Some legendary players can anchor both sides (Shaquille, Duncan, Hakeem, etc). Then there are roleplayers who put up huge numbers but are clearly the type to play off someone else rather than players playing off of them. These names include a prime Shawn Marion, Andrei Kirilenko, David Lee, and so on. They are good useful players, but shouldn't be overrated.

03-30-2012, 01:30 PM	#27 (permalink)
gi0rdun Legend Join Date: May 2007 Location: CA Age: 19 Posts: 12,671 Rep Power: 8799979	Re: Kevin Love versus historical greats This is as much as a bump as it is a serious discussion. What do we see Kevin Love's ceiling as now? I have him 1a/1b with Dirk Nowitzki in a similar way as Kobe and LeBron used to be 1a/1b (I'd take Dirk/Kobe for a one year championship run, but Love/LeBron for anything else). He will probably be the best Power Forward in the league for at least the next 5 years. Despite his great numbers, I think his offensive game needs expanding and although he's not known for his defense, I don't think he's any worse than other top PFs like Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Webber, maybe even Charles Barkley. Top 10 Power Forward of all time potential? __________________ ^Your favorite basketball blog

04-02-2012, 05:47 AM	#28 (permalink)
e-monk All-Star Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,672 Rep Power: 3274359	Re: Kevin Love versus historical greats probably could be but he still aint Moses Malone also with all the deletions and non-sequitirs this thread is more f-ed up than a soup sandwich

04-09-2012, 11:52 AM	#29 (permalink)
Najee Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,036 Rep Power: 2718548	Re: Kevin Love versus historical greats Talk about a thread deliberately altered to take things out of context ... __________________ And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that love survives and we'll rock forever.

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