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**Gonzo** · 11-04-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hobbes

Speaking of the Pacers, if Reggie had dunked it...

**Floods** · 11-04-2012, 08:24 PM

I buy them getting to the finals. Winning it, I don't know.

Mr. Hobbes · 11-05-2012, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

I feel your pain. My av's team got ref'd out of a title.

*Clink*...to a better tomorrow.

**Luke** · 11-05-2012, 10:25 PM

Maybe, but probably not. I wouldn't have bet on a Jermaine O'Neal led team going head to head against Shaq or Duncan.

**Gonzo** · 11-06-2012, 05:48 PM

It was a dual prime Ron Artest and Jermaine O'Neal led team with a side of Reggie Miller.

Artest was playing very good ball those first seven games.

**Luke** · 11-06-2012, 06:11 PM

Your point being? Would anyone actually hesitate to build around Timmy/Manu/Parker in 2005 as opposed to Jermaine/Artest/Miller? I know I wouldn't.

**R-Star** · 11-06-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

Your point being? Would anyone actually hesitate to build around Timmy/Manu/Parker in 2005 as opposed to Jermaine/Artest/Miller? I know I wouldn't.

O'Neal was third in MVP voting the year prior and was unquestionably a top 3 big man in the league. Artest was putting up his best stats ever, while shutting opposing teams down. Brad Miller was a quality 5, Stephen Jackson was a premier support scorer, Jamal Tinsley was one of the better assist men in the league..... and they had Reggie Miller.

"Your point being?"

Get the **** out of here with your condescending bullshit. No one is interested.

**Luke** · 11-06-2012, 07:29 PM

O'Neal was a top three big man? That's news to me. I'd take Duncan, KG, Shaq, and Dirk easily ahead of him in 2005. Sorry the Pacers weren't better than the Spurs. They were merely really, really good.

**R-Star** · 11-06-2012, 07:30 PM

Oh, ok then. Luke has spoken.

End thread.

**Luke** · 11-06-2012, 07:34 PM

So you're saying that you would take Jermaine over those guys?

seifer0406 · 11-06-2012, 07:35 PM

They had like a 2-3 year window if the fight never happened. Jermaine O'neal knees started going in 06' although Artest's could've been a much better player than he turned out to be had he kept focus. I would say 1 or 2 final appearances but comes up short both times.

**R-Star** · 11-06-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

So you're saying that you would take Jermaine over those guys?

That year? Yea.

He had easily surpassed Shaq.

And why did he beat them in MVP voting then if they were better (at the time)?

Keep talking out of your ass.

**Luke** · 11-06-2012, 07:44 PM

Easily surpassed Shaq!? Are you serious? Shaq should have won MVP in '05 and was on the first team All NBA after turning Miami into a contender.

**Luke** · 11-06-2012, 07:44 PM

And that still leaves four guys for an unquestionable top three big man.

**Diable** · 11-06-2012, 07:50 PM

Artest would have certainly had himself a Max contract and that probably would have been a real albatross contract before it expired.

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Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,898 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: If The Malice In The Palace Doesn't Happen... Your point being? Would anyone actually hesitate to build around Timmy/Manu/Parker in 2005 as opposed to Jermaine/Artest/Miller? I know I wouldn't. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

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Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,898 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: If The Malice In The Palace Doesn't Happen... O'Neal was a top three big man? That's news to me. I'd take Duncan, KG, Shaq, and Dirk easily ahead of him in 2005. Sorry the Pacers weren't better than the Spurs. They were merely really, really good. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

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Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,898 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: If The Malice In The Palace Doesn't Happen... Easily surpassed Shaq!? Are you serious? Shaq should have won MVP in '05 and was on the first team All NBA after turning Miami into a contender. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

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