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Old 08-31-2003, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Best Point guard in history from assists to points and steals etc

Pistol , Isiah, Magic, etc. give me your opinion
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Old 08-31-2003, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 08-31-2003, 11:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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if your criteria is points,assists and steals it has to be john stockton who i believe is the alltime leader in two of those 3 categories.personlly i think magic was the best player at that position.
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Old 08-31-2003, 12:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The greatest scoring point guard of all time was "Pistol" Pete Maravich. He was really unstoppable.

The greatest passing point guard of all time was Magic Johnson. He'd be the all time leader if his carrer wasn't cut short. I guarantee it.

The greatest stealing point guard of all time was Michael Ray Richardson. He anticipated and pounced. His carrer was cut very short so no one reall knows what he could do.

In closing, this is not meant for hating on John Stockton. He was the second greatest point gaurd of all time for his longevity and great passing. The reason he holds his records is because of his amazing ability to stay healthy.
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The greatest scoring point guard of all time was "Pistol" Pete Maravich. He was really unstoppable.

The greatest passing point guard of all time was Magic Johnson. He'd be the all time leader if his carrer wasn't cut short. I guarantee it.
No way. No way in hell actually. Even Magic knew this, and said that he was just keeping the record warm for Stockton.

Let's put it this way:

Magic played 906 games and averaged 11.2 APG, giving him 10,141 assists.

Stockton played 1,504 games and averaged 10.5 APG, giving him 15,806 assists.

If Magic plays the equivalent amount of games, also not likely as John Stockton's durability is legendary, he would have had to average about 9.5 assists per game in those games to equal Stockton. Not bloody likely, especially if he has a drop off similiar to Stockton's (in 898 games, Stockton was averaging 11.5 APG, higher than Magic's average).

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In closing, this is not meant for hating on John Stockton. He was the second greatest point gaurd of all time for his longevity and great passing. The reason he holds his records is because of his amazing ability to stay healthy.
And the fact that he was extremely good at passing and stealing.
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Old 08-31-2003, 03:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The greatest scoring point guard of all time was "Pistol" Pete Maravich. He was really unstoppable.
he was unstoppable because how long ago he played..There was really no great defender when he played..If i had to pick somehow it would have to be out of John Stockon and Magic..But i would pick Magic because no one could guard him because of his size..
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Old 08-31-2003, 06:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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stockton not by much.

he could pass and steal better. period. magic was more flashy, and of course terrific, but stockton rises above the rest.
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Old 08-31-2003, 06:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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stockton not by much.

he could pass and steal better. period. magic was more flashy, and of course terrific, but stockton rises above the rest.
agreed, I'd take stockton also.
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Old 08-31-2003, 07:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Oscar Robertson was the only player in the history of the NBA to average a triple double for a season. If your going by points-assists-rebounds-steals etc., he's the best PG ever.
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Old 08-31-2003, 07:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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he wasnt a point guard tho was he???

but yeah thats the most outstanding stats ever.

to bad they never counted steals and blocks, im sure they were great too.
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Old 08-31-2003, 11:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Some stats comparisons

All time leaders: Apg
1)Magic 11.2
2)Stockton 10.5
3)Robertson 9.5
4)Kidd 9.4

All time leaders: Spg
8)Stockton 2.17
9)Kidd 2.11
21) Magic 1.9

Rpg: Career
Magic- 7.2
Kidd - 6.4
Stockton- 2.7

Ppg :Career
Magic- 19.5
Kidd- 14.7
Stockton -13.1

Triple doubles: All time
1) Robertson 181
2) Magic 138
3) Wilt 78
4) Bird 59
5) Kidd 51
Stock- zero

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Old 08-31-2003, 11:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Here's some more-

MPG:
Kidd 37.6
Magic 36.7
Stockton 31.8

FG%:
Kidd .404
Magic .520
Stockton .515

3p%
Kidd .325
Magic .303
Stockton .384

FT%
Kidd .776
Magic .848
Stockton .826

TOPG:
Kidd 3.41
Magic 3.87
Stockton 2.82

You mysteriously forgot those ones. Seriously though, at this point in his career I really don't think Kidd is the same caliber as Magic, Isiah, Stockton, and Oscar.. maybe after he retires and ends up being 3rd/4th on the assists lists and 2nd in steals.. hard to say. Right now though? Pretty dubious..
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