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Old 06-16-2007, 10:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Help needed: player games and player wins...

Howdy.

Picture this:
Player A has played for seven years in the league, and for 3 different teams.

I would like to know if there's data around that would show:

- The percentage and totals of games won by the team in games Player A played in and in games he didn't (injuries, suspensions...).

Resulting in something like:

Player A played a total of 500 games in the NBA. In games he played, his team(s) won 50% of the games - 250. In games he did not play, his team won 30% of the games - 150. Something like this.

Can someone help?
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Help needed: player games and player wins...

This requires some time and math but this is the only way I know of:

Go to a player's profile on basketball-reference.com and look a little below his general info for the "Game Log" tab. Select a season and scroll to the bottom where it will say the player's team record in games played. So if you want to see the team's record when he didn't play, look at the team's overall record that season and subtract.

Example:
Miami went 44-38 overall
Miami went 25-15 when Shaq played, therefore..
Miami went 19-23 without Shaq

Simple

Unfortunately I can't find career record in games played so it's a matter of compiling each season's team record with and without Player A and then adding them all up. Btw it's only available dating back to the '87 season.

Also of interest is the "Splits" tab next to the "Game Log" tab on the player's profile. It shows the player's season stats in wins/losses, at home/away, monthly splits, etc.
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Re: Help needed: player games and player wins...

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This requires some time and math but this is the only way I know of:

Go to a player's profile on basketball-reference.com and look a little below his general info for the "Game Log" tab. Select a season and scroll to the bottom where it will say the player's team record in games played. So if you want to see the team's record when he didn't play, look at the team's overall record that season and subtract.

Example:
Miami went 44-38 overall
Miami went 25-15 when Shaq played, therefore..
Miami went 19-23 without Shaq

Simple

Unfortunately I can't find career record in games played so it's a matter of compiling each season's team record with and without Player A and then adding them all up. Btw it's only available dating back to the '87 season.

Also of interest is the "Splits" tab next to the "Game Log" tab on the player's profile. It shows the player's season stats in wins/losses, at home/away, monthly splits, etc.
Thanx for the heads-up, GTA.

I dabbled a little with theplayers logs and reach the following facts, regarding Shaq and Duncan (regular season only):

Shaq's teams won 66.61% of the games they played; Duncan's teams 70.68%
Shaq won 69.52% of the games he played in; Duncan, 71.98%;
Shaq's teams won 53.45% of the games he did not play; Duncan's teams 52.38%.

Do you think this is an adequate way of evaluing a player's importance in the team?
Regading career games, the "oh, so the Lakers minus Shaq won against the Memphis Grizzlies, so what?" questions would not arise.

One thing, at least, is interesting: considering Shaq and Duncan are the most dominating players in the last decade or so, their teams could still win at over a .500% clip wthout them...
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Re: Help needed: player games and player wins...

I hink basketball-reference has a win percentage for individual players. Is that what you were looking for?
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