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Old 07-14-2004, 10:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Not good news on Kenyon

Fred Kerber in the NY Post

http://www.nypost.com/sports/nets/18000.htm

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it seemed almost certain the power forward was headed out of New Jersey
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Unbelievable. Three draft picks? What is going on?
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It is very strange. I still haven't see anything on ESPN.com and **** has gone to Aldridge and Stein before.

The spin in the morning should be interesting.
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That article is fishy...

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The new development came one day after the Nets said sign-and-trade talks were off with the Nuggets. League and team sources insisted the Nets were prepared to match Denver's six-year offer sheet, a front-loaded pact with a trade kicker that was worth $82.3 million, down from the expected $85M because of the new salary-cap number.
So the Nets WERE going to match the 6 year/82.3 million dollar contract...

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But according to sources, Martin's camp, aware of the matching interest, asked for a seventh year from the Nets. Along with the right to match any outside offer, the Nets also are the only team able to give Martin a seventh year. So the Nets must present Martin with a proposal, and after he accepts, trade him to Denver.
...but then Martin heard the Nets were going to match, he wanted a seventh year (I also don't understand how the article went from Martin demanding a seventh year to the Nets wanting to trade him)...

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A league source, however, claimed the Nuggets would not pay $105 million but would end up giving Martin more than $90M in a pact without a signing bonus or trade kicker. The swap could be finalized today.
...so Martin chooses a 7 year/90 million or 12.85 per year deal with Denver over the 6 year/82.3 or 13.71 per deal with the Nets?

Huh?
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah. It doesn't make much sense, and who knows if we'll ever hear the whole truth.

Shoot, who knows what's really going to happen at this point? All we can do is .
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I can see wanting the 7th year for more total $ and a little less per year, but why can't the Nets provide that? Why does that 7th year mean it has to be Denver?

















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Re: That article is fishy...

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...so Martin chooses a 7 year/90 million or 12.85 per year deal with Denver over the 6 year/82.3 or 13.71 per deal with the Nets?
It is still more money and an extra year of financial security. In 6 years, Kenyon might not be able to get a contract worth 7 million.

Also the article said more than 90. I personnal would suspect 93.8 Million which starts at 9.75 with 12.5% raises.
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I can see wanting the 7th year for more total $ and a little less per year, but why can't the Nets provide that? Why does that 7th year mean it has to be Denver?

















Exactly. It doesn't make sense...as presented in that article.

Why would the Nets match a 6 year deal for 82, but not a 7 year deal for 90?

The 7 year deal is a better deal for the Nets.
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I can see wanting the 7th year for more total $ and a little less per year, but why can't the Nets provide that? Why does that 7th year mean it has to be Denver?
A theory mentioned on the board of negativity (I think you now where I mean) was that Kenyon told the Nets that he didn't want to play in NJ any more. I don't buy it, but I've been an optimist about this.

My Grassy Knoll Theory is that David Stern doesn't want Shaq and Kenyon in the same conference. My Zapruder film is Shaq's interview with ESPN where he mentions that Kenyon is going to the West
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A theory mentioned on the board of negativity (I think you now where I mean) was that Kenyon told the Nets that he didn't want to play in NJ any more. I don't buy it, but I've been an optimist about this.

My Grassy Knoll Theory is that David Stern doesn't want Shaq and Kenyon in the same conference. My Zapruder film is Shaq's interview with ESPN where he mentions that Kenyon is going to the West
My theory is that **** leaked this info to the media to try to gain some leverage.
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An e-mail has been dispatched to one Mr. Fred Kerber (as long as I guessed right on his addy) from the offices of NetsDaily. Stay tuned...
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My theory is that **** leaked this info to the media to try to gain some leverage.
Perhaps, but Kerber does site multiple sources. So far **** has leaked to Ohm, Stein & Aldridge so maybe he justed wanted to give Fred a chance

The only leverage I can see would be fan outrage.


Edited to add: Plus you don't have any film for your theory
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Perhaps, but Kerber does site multiple sources. So far **** has leaked to Ohm, Stein & Aldridge so maybe he justed wanted to give Fred a chance

The only leverage I can see would be fan outrage.


Edited to add: Plus you don't have any film for your theory
Look at his wording though...

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But according to sources, Martin's camp, aware of the matching interest, asked for a seventh year from the Nets. Along with the right to match any outside offer, the Nets also are the only team able to give Martin a seventh year. So the Nets must present Martin with a proposal, and after he accepts, trade him to Denver.
Ok, I see the sources part and Martin's camp part (aka ****) asking for a seventh year. I got that.

But what sources stated the Nets must now sign and trade Martin?

I do not see the jump in logic, or the "source" behind it.
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Ok, I see the sources part and Martin's camp part (aka ****) asking for a seventh year. I got that.

But what sources stated the Nets must now sign and trade Martin?

I do not see the jump in logic, or the "source" behind it.
I agree with you. I don't understand how the 7th year automatically means a S&T deal. It seems like this article was poorly edited in an attempt to get it on the Post's web page before any other papers.
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The new development came one day after the Nets said sign-and-trade talks were off with the Nuggets. League and team sources insisted the Nets were prepared to match Denver's six-year offer sheet, a front-loaded pact with a trade kicker that was worth $82.3 million, down from the expected $85M because of the new salary-cap number.
This was the part that had multiple sources. I think poor editing is impacting the message too much in this story.
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