RP McMurphy

It's hilarious that some Blazers fans think including Sebastian Telfair or Sergei Monya would be a deal-breaker here.

On the one hand, we have Jason Kidd. A lock for the Hall of Fame. One of the best point guards of the past fifteen years. And for the people who say he's past his prime, a guy who's still in his early thirties and was just named to the All-NBA First Team (again).

On the other hand, we have Sebastian Telfair and Sergei Monya, two completely unproven rookies who weren't highly regarded enough to even be drafted in the top ten. Compared to Kidd, these guys don't mean squat.

If Portland thinks Kidd is too expensive and won't recover from his injury, that's a valid reason to turn the trade down. In that case, they shouldn't trade for Kidd no matter whether Telfair and Monya are included or not. But not wanting to give up Telfair or Monya, that's not a valid reason to pass up on Jason freaking Kidd.

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schub

Star-Ledger seems to take the strongest stance in debunking the rumor:

http://www.nj.com/nets/ledger/index....1023087570.xml

cimalee

deal over Thorn is trying to act like you guys are not having a fire sale and I heard Nets wanted Zach for Kidd Yeah Right I could see them asking the blazers that and they just hang up on them

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jmk

If you want anyone to ever read your posts without laughing outloud, you might want to progress up from that grade 2 grammar that you are using.

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truth

i think its more punctuation

QRICH

Though, Telfair and Monia probably aren't deal breakers ( I dont' see Portland dealing either one anyway) You gotta stop actin like Kidd isn't hurt. He has a serious knee injury. An injury that ruined the careers of Antionio McDyse and Penny Hardaway. They never came back the same after this injury. He is a risk worth taking as a player, but when there is a chance he might not be nearly the player he once was at 5 years $90 million left on his contract, Nash would be wise to stay away.

Petey

McDyess and Penny were similar players. They relied upon other aspects unrelated to Kidd's game. Obviously a serious knee injury will effect his game. But I didn't know it was his knees that allowed him to create offense, and positioning for rebounds around guys 3-4 inches taller then he is.

-Petey

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Tom

Kidd is a floor general...he will just have to play a few less minutes at this point...so going to a team with a similar situation that he came to the Nets would be a stupid thing for him to do.

He needs a really good backup to spell him.

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truth

Petey,you are losing it.....

JKIDD runs the fast break beter than anyone and is probably faster with the ball than most people without it...He is every bit the athlete as Mcdyss and Penny and relies on physical attributes just like they did...

Kidd without his speed will not be anything special.I would not consider him Mr Halfcourt basketball...

A better comparison would be Tim Hardaway...He remained as good as he was because he could shoot,not Kidds forte...

Dont "Kidd" yourself..

Petey

You are mentioning only 1 part of his game. Yes he runs the break better than anyone in basketball, but lets not forget he has created offense in half court sets, agreed he himself is not the best shooter... but how man alleys has he thrown while in the half court sets? He is a floor general as Tom said. Or how about the fact that he had 9 triple doubles last year, there is more to his game then running the break.

-Petey

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Aurelino

Kidd is not a good penetrator and isn't lightening quick laterally. He won't break anybody's ankles like Parker, Marbury, Davis and Bibby can. If you think creating baskets in the halfcourt only means driving-and-dishing then yes, Kidd isn't a halfcourt player.

What he can do though is 1) Because of his size, he can post-up almost every other PG in the league and he's very good at it. In recent memory after a heated exchange with Frank Williams in the Knicks 1st round series , Kidd schooled him in the post . 2) Find open teammates with his unparalled court-vision. He led the league in dunk (and close to the basket) assists last year but a good number of them were non-fastbreak assists. Alley-oops to RJ and KMart and backdoor passes to Kittles for example consistuted a fair number of them. actually, the Nets fastbreak players were sometimes too unselfish last year and would make that extra pass . For example Kidd would pass to RJ for the finish but RJ would
make the extra pass and get others involved. So it wasn't as if all of Kidd's 9.2 apg came on the break.

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cimalee

Honestly I still see a deal happening , The nets know Paul Allen will take on a contract like Kidds

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truth

I think you guys are seriously underestimating how physically gifted Kidd is.....Yes,he is a tremendously smart ballplayer,but he will have to adapt his game if he loses some of those attributes