Petey

Would the current team be better off right now right KMart or Carter? Without those picks there is no chance, or the slimmest of chances we would have both. So if you had 1, whom would you think is the better choice?

Myself, I think the team with KMart would be better record wise, but we won't be as exciting as with Carter.

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Tom

You really have to go with VC if healthy. I mean the reason we never won a title was because we had no one to finish games. This is so huge in the NBA its not even funny.

You can count on your hand the guys who have that ability and we now have him. Although I love(hate, shut up!) Kenyon, i have to go with Carter all things being equal.

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If you can get Dalembert, then Carter > K-Mart.

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Petey

That is not fair to say, because if we had K-Mart could we also add or have kept Kittles or Harris?

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Pan Mengtu

K-Mart, definitely. Have to have someone in the frontcourt. His defense and ability to run the floor was great for your team.

And I thought Jefferson was supposed to be the "game finisher" type now, no?

truth

Petey in all fairness you should be asking would the team be better with Kmart or Vince plus the Clips number1.Thats really the net trade....

I would say Kmart is probably a hair more valuable to the Nets than a healthy carter.But if that Clip pick brings you anyone like Dalembert,the trade is hge in your favor...

Plus,Vince puts fans in the seats..Kmart does not

what did the nets get for trading Kittles?
and what did they get for trading their first round pick this year

7M3

He is. Jefferson's an excellent 4th quarter scorer.

However, he isn't the type of player to isolate against his man with 30 seconds left in the game. Vince is the much better one-on-one player, while RJ is much better off-the-ball and within the offense.

7M3

As for the thread question, I would say there isn't really much doubt that, when healthy, VC is a better and more valuable player than Kenyon. It's so damn hard to get an offensive player the caliber of Vince. Every shot he takes you expect to go in. He's a guy who can win games for you down the stretch.

I love Kenyon. He's a great defender and a great leader. But, more importantly than that, he fit in wonderfully with OUR team. That is, he fit in wonderfully with the old Nets team. The one with a healthy Kidd and Kerry Kittles.

With our team NOW, there's no doubt Vince is more valuable, simply because we need his scoring.

Finchstatic

id go with carter since krstic is playing great

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I think the Martin-Krstic combo could have become something special, and it's our loss that we didn't get to see it. Krstic already has a tough streak. Imagine if he could have had Martin as a mentor. Imagine the old Nets defense, anchored by Kidd, Kittles and Martin, with a shotblocker like Krstic.

truth and 7M3 make important points. Just switching Martin and Carter doesn't cover all the changes to the team. Just the fact the Kidd that Martin played with isn't the current Kidd makes a huge difference. The old Kidd permeated the team so thoroughly that the effect of any drop-off in his game was magnified in the team. Kidd is still the driver, but at least for now, he can't be the engine, too. That means a different kind of team.

Kittles, too. Nobody, including Carter, could sprint out on a fastbreak like Kittles, but Carter is the far better scorer in the half-court offense. Kittles' defense, however, is sorely missed. Watching the current Nets guards, including Carter, I appreciate Kittles' defense more now than when he was here.

Both Carter and Martin are brittle, Martin less so, and neither has played well through injury in their careers, so that evens out. I think the biggest loss with Martin is the attitude and aggressiveness he brought onto the court. An intangible, perhaps, but it won more than a few big games for the Nets. When the Nets are engaged in contests of will against the top teams, like the Pistons, I don't know if Carter can replace Martin's leadership.

Ask this question in another month or two. The old Nets, such as they were, knew their identity and how to play with each other. This season's team reinvented itself before the season and now twice (Kidd returns, Carter trade) in-season. They're going through a protracted training camp, and they're still figuring out who they are and what they do. We don't know yet if Carter will meld his game with the Nets system. I think he will, but it'll take time before we know.

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Petey

Ok, there is value for that Clipper's first, but we really don't know how much.

Kittles got us a 2nd round Clipper's pick... (Haha, stupid cost cutting mode)

-Petey

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Petey

If we can acquire 2 big men in trade, I think there will be great consideration to throw all if not part of our MLE at Kittles this offseason as a backup SG and PG.

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If I'm a Nets fan definetly K-Mart, Vc is way too injury prone at this stage of his career.

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truth

The sad part of this from a business perspective,carter wins hands down...

If hes healthy and happy,he will more than pay for himself....You guys will probably be sold out for the first home game..Thats probably 8000 more fans than usual...Theres 800,000 right there if seats avg 100 a pop.Plus refreshments,jersys...maybe another 200,000...so in carters first game,The Nets bring in 1,000,000...

Petey