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Interesting read because he is an idiot... Yes Kidd and Carter and semi-stars.

-Petey

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njnets06

While the writer made a couple of stupid comments like the above, for the most part I thought it was a well written article. A little harsh on Vince, but overall raised valid points.

If Pacers, who lost their top 3 players, have a better record than us, and went 9-1 before losing last night, then how come Carter and Kidd, two superstars, can't reel off a 9-1 streak?

njnets06

From the article: "This is where Thorn has to go to work. His first move should be the most obvious one of all: putting an end to Kidd's passive/aggressive and subliminal trade demands by shipping him somewhere else for the frontcourt depth this team desperately needs. Kidd makes everyone around him better, but he just turned 32 and can't go on forever. Inspired by new surroundings, Kidd will have one or two All-Star years ahead of him, but he won't be worth the $21million he's owed in '09. It won't be easy to explain to the fans in Brooklyn, but it's the only thing that will keep his team from sustaining the uncertain tone that marked this strange season."

Kidd played well in January (before the trade deadline) and now recently he's shown some of his former greatness, especially the game against Pacers. But how come we're not seeing that on a regular basis?

Was Kidd auditioning in January and once again reminding GMs that he still is in top form but wants out?

Petey

I think he puts forth an effort every night, when it comes down to it, he's a play maker, he'll only look as good as those around him, make him look.

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lukewarmplay

yeah, it was nice and unbiased, especially the part where he gave thorn no credit for any of his good moves and criticized him for all of his bad ones. i like the way he blasted carter as still being "an insufferable prima donna" on the nets, even though there's been no indication of that kind of mentality, and he's actually seemed like a decent guy.

HB

No comparisons between pacers and nets should be made. Their bench would be a good starting five in the league. They are simply loaded and they have one of the best coaches working at the helm of things

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schub

The national NBA media pretty much sucks across the board.

njnets06

AJ and SJax were discarded by the Nets.

Nets chemistry is not where it should be.

As for coaching, are you suggesting Frank is not as great as most people on this board claim? If so, then I agree. While he's a huge improvement over Scott, I think an experienced championship winning coach would have been able to get more out of our team.

njnets06

Yeah, right. Then how do you explain the hugh swing in performance? In games like the Knicks, he played well because he was pissed and wanted to upstage Mebury. Then in the Pacer game, he finally played like a HOFer. He went to the FT line because he initiated action. Kidd has set per game record low FT attempts this year.

In the Pacers game, we saw the vintage HOF Kidd. In the Knicks game we saw the AllStar Kidd. In January, we saw AllStar Kidd. All other games, he didn't show either, and that's why we're struggling to make the playoffs.

kiddisanet

Nagging injuries and fears of reinjuring his recently repaired knee also played a part. I really think he's in need of an offseason before he can truly get comfortable with that knee.

Um, to blame his play for the reason why we are not in the playoff is a bit silly. This team has a weak front court, a weak bench, and has had six players undergo surgery in the past year. So many changes, so many injuries. That's why we're out of the playoffs. No one player is at fault.

schub

Agree there. There has been maybe one or two games where you could maybe question Kidd's effort, but that has to be expected over the course of a long season. Everybody has bad energy days.

Petey

Becauses he's not a shooter. In those games he made enough shots where the defense had to play closer up on him, allowing him to go around them. On nights where he is off, you'll find players sag off him, hence the big 3 where Carter was doubled, and he past to a wide open Kidd.

-Petey

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njnets06

You are kidding, right? For the last 3 months, Kidd has camped at the arc and waited for the pass from Carter. In January, Kidd was hitting 3's at an amazing %.

You didn't answer why Kidd has stopped taking it inside this year, except for a few games. Record low free throw attempts!!! I thought it was because he lost half a step, but I was wrong because in the Pacers game he showed he can attack for an extended time.

Just like Carter wasn't happy in Toronto, and KG isn't happy with the situation in Minny, Kidd hasn't been happy in NJ. Unhappy superstars = teams struggling to play .500.

Drew

Kidd was shooting a lot of three's because it was a team need. When other teams are doubling down on Carter, that leaves someone open. Because Kidd is often the one dumping it down low to Carter, he's often the one that ends up being open b/c the guy that's gaurding him is the one doing the doubling. And as for him driving to the hoop, that's more of a fast break thing, imo. When Kidd is the one w/ the ball after a turnover, he is usually the quickest guy down the court, which means he is driving to the hoop. But in the halfcourt, anytime he drives the ball he's going to be harrassed by the big guys. Against the Pacers, you could see Vince was definetly having a problem that night. With our current team, other than Vince there is no real big scorer, so Kidd didn't have a choice.