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**NetIncome** · 06-02-2005, 08:07 AM

Team won't give him buyout, says Folha de Sao Paulo, Brazil's biggest newspaper [as translated by machine with some help from me]:

Club can make Tiago Splitter give up "draft".

The Brazilian most mentioned in the "mock drafts" of the NBA has a contract for two more years with Tau Ceramica (ESP), who does not want to free him.

"We are negotiating. If he will not have a release, no draft. No NBA team would wait two years for an athlete ", says Luis Martin, agent of Splitter.

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/esp...de02062005.htm

Memo to Luis: Nets did, baby!

Dumpy · 06-02-2005, 08:13 AM

Always with the breaking news, you are.

Could the Nets steal Splitter in the second round?!

**KingofNewark** · 06-02-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dumpy

Always with the breaking news, you are.

Could the Nets steal Splitter in the second round?!

Maciej Lampe was one of those hot shot euros who fell all the way to the 2nd round be cause of contract problems. It could happen!

rundmc00 · 06-02-2005, 08:27 AM

Charlotte should take Splitter at #13.

If two more years, they'd have Okafur, Splitter, DWilliams and probably a max FA and another top draft pick next year.

ThatNetGuy · 06-02-2005, 08:31 AM

Philly would be good too. You have Webber now and gone in two years.

rundmc00 · 06-02-2005, 08:33 AM

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Philly would be good too. You have Webber now and gone in two years.

They don't have a pick.

**Netted** · 06-02-2005, 08:41 AM

I wonder if it might be worthwhile to trade next years Nets 1st rounder to get another this year. If Splitter is still on the board later in the 1st round. Basically we would be picking next years 1st rounder early.

**cpawfan** · 06-02-2005, 08:50 AM

Most likely he would pull out of the draft then. While some teams would be willing to take him, they may be too low for his agent. Remember, every drop of 1 draft pick is money taken away from the player.

On the other hand, Splitter could hope to drop far enough to go to a winning team that doesn't need him right away like the Spurs.

I'm going to guess that he pulls out of the draft.

**NetIncome** · 06-02-2005, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cpawfan

Most likely he would pull out of the draft then. While some teams would be willing to take him, they may be too low for his agent. Remember, every drop of 1 draft pick is money taken away from the player.

On the other hand, Splitter could hope to drop far enough to go to a winning team that doesn't need him right away like the Spurs.

I'm going to guess that he pulls out of the draft.

That's what I figure as well. Why would an agent recommend that he stay in the draft if there are buyout issues? If he gets drafted this year, he will get rookie money based on this year's rookie salary scale. If he goes at #15, he winds up with about $1.3 million in his rookie year. If he waits a year or two and winds up in the top 5, he would double or triple that number.

He's only 20. Even if he waits two years when all contract issues are resolved, he would be the age of a college senior.

Last year, I thought Monia's agent screwed him up. Monia's contract purportedly permitted a buyout if and only if he was picked in the lottery. They thought he would get the lottery pick so took the chance. Instead, he wound up at #23 with no buyout; going back to CSKA Moscow where he got less playing time [why waste time on a player you know is leaving]; and a lot less money when he finally signs with an NBA team.

**Netted** · 06-02-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cpawfan

Most likely he would pull out of the draft then. While some teams would be willing to take him, they may be too low for his agent. Remember, every drop of 1 draft pick is money taken away from the player.

On the other hand, Splitter could hope to drop far enough to go to a winning team that doesn't need him right away like the Spurs.

I'm going to guess that he pulls out of the draft.

If the Nets guarnatee his agent a pick at #15 he may stay. Anything lower than that without a guarantee and I agree he will pull him.

I like taking him there and trading next years 1st rounder to get into the lower half of round 1 this year (take Diogu, Simien or Turiaf). If we have to wait for Splitter we would basically be using next years pick early.

**Petey** · 06-02-2005, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cpawfan

Most likely he would pull out of the draft then. While some teams would be willing to take him, they may be too low for his agent. Remember, every drop of 1 draft pick is money taken away from the player.

On the other hand, Splitter could hope to drop far enough to go to a winning team that doesn't need him right away like the Spurs.

I'm going to guess that he pulls out of the draft.

True, if true, he's pulling out of the draft, but I'm sure he would get picked up somewhere.

On the other hand, if he agent can promise him that he would drop out of the 1st round, he should consider staying in, as then he could force a team to pay him outside of the rookie scale...

-Petey

**NetIncome** · 06-02-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Petey

True, if true, he's pulling out of the draft, but I'm sure he would get picked up somewhere.

On the other hand, if he agent can promise him that he would drop out of the 1st round, he should consider staying in, as then he could force a team to pay him outside of the rookie scale...

-Petey

Not if owners have their way...they want the rookie scale extended to second round...more risks for the agent to consider.

**Petey** · 06-02-2005, 09:47 AM

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Not if owners have their way...they want the rookie scale extended to second round...more risks for the agent to consider.

I've read that, think it's going to happen? If so, the Draft will be the only way players come to the US to play ball. Nocinni will be the last of his kind.

-Petey

**NetIncome** · 06-02-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Petey

I've read that, think it's going to happen? If so, the Draft will be the only way players come to the US to play ball. Nocinni will be the last of his kind.

-Petey

Not at all. If an international player is not drafted by age 23, they are free agents and can sign with anyone. I expect to see a lot more never-drafted free agents signed in next years...as well as those who were once drafted, cut by teams, and then developed their games in Europe.

Nocioni is the first of the breed. Walter Herrmann and Arvidas Macijauskas want to come over, as does the best player on the continent: Sarunas Jasikevicus.

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