Originally Posted by cpawfan

One of the many things I would like to see Frank do is to have certain lineups designated for various attacks. A running team, a half court grinding team, a defensive team, a zone busting team, etc.

From the limited amount that I've seen of the Nets, I don't see attempts from Frank to do that.

Originally Posted by willbkid4ever

i'm not sure if there has been a thread on the motion offense...

but i think the motion offense is hurting the team. we've got three players, or even four- if we include krstic, who can create shots for themselves. the nets should not depend too much on the motion offense.

during the motion offense, the ball is rotated until we find the open player. this is fine, because we have players who should be able to hit the open jumpers easily. the motion offense promotes unselfish basketball. however, this can also negate a player's momentum, especially when a player is hot. coach frank should realize that a player like vince carter needs to hold the ball and create for him to get hot. and sometimes, we don't get open looks after several passes because the opponents are not employing any double team on our players... thus, plenty of missed shots. and we've even heard some comments about over-passing.

all we need are a few pick and rolls... a few isolation plays... and we've got mismatches in favor of our players. and if they double our play-makers, just kick the ball out to the open teammate. basketball can be easy.

i'm not saying that the nets should put the motion offense in the trash bin. the motion offense can be good whenever we use our role players. that's why mcinnis, zoran, uncle cliffy, padget and jackson should learn the plays if they want to contribute for the team. but then again, they can easily score if they just find the proper spots whenever our playmakers are double teamed during isolations and pick and rolls.

i just want kidd, carter, rj, and even krstic take the game in their hands... and for the other players to get the spacing right and find the open spots.

Originally Posted by SeaNet

Add to that the fact that most of the game is played w/ only 4 guys offensively, and for long stretches 3. It's Hard to have a motion offense when there's almost always at least one guy on the court who you never throw the ball to, and many times two. I don't know what the answer is, though. I'm beginning to fear we have a tragically mismatched set of players.

Originally Posted by ghoti

Collins played extremely well in the Princeton offense, even as a rookie.

He knows it as well as anyone, can play center in it effectively (and you need a good decision maker at center) and running it would make him a better offensive player.

Nenad is a terrific passer, and he would dish out assists like crazy in any kind of motion offense.
Like I already posted, he is averaging .8 APG - which is ludicrous - and it's Frank's fault.

Originally Posted by Hbwoy

What Nenad are you talking about? He might have the ability, but does he have the willingness to do so. Everytime he gets the ball, he is so trigger happy

Originally Posted by Hbwoy

What Nenad are you talking about? He might have the ability, but does he have the willingness to do so. Everytime he gets the ball, he is so trigger happy

Originally Posted by cpawfan

It is a matter of positioning. Most of the time he receives the ball it is in a shooting position. Frank is not utilizing his passing skills with the flow of the offense.

Originally Posted by ghoti

Collins played extremely well in the Princeton offense, even as a rookie.

He knows it as well as anyone, can play center in it effectively (and you need a good decision maker at center) and running it would make him a better offensive player.

Nenad is a terrific passer, and he would dish out assists like crazy in any kind of motion offense.

Like I already posted, he is averaging .8 APG - which is ludicrous - and it's Frank's fault.

Originally Posted by cpawfan

One of the many things I would like to see Frank do is to have certain lineups designated for various attacks. A running team, a half court grinding team, a defensive team, a zone busting team, etc.

From the limited amount that I've seen of the Nets, I don't see attempts from Frank to do that.

Originally Posted by SeaNet

I don't deny that Collins used to be OK in the motion offense. However, this year and last, he's become a horrible liability every time he touches the ball. Whatever little bit the man had going on offensively has been lost. The defense knows that he's no threat at all close to the hoop (not even passing), so they don't cover him, and the other offensive players know that he can't do anything w/ it too, so even though he's open and they are doubled, they don't throw him the ball.