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Old 01-30-2006, 08:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

Go Get him Rod. Its like when Rod called Toronto to get Marshall, and VC's name popped up. I think Collison could be a guy you give up 2 first round picks for. He is FAR superior to Evans. Throw in Zoran and there is no reason for Seattle not to take that offer. They are a rebuilding team that just fired its coach, and Collison gets no minutes.

If you want to get really creative, make it

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Collison
Radmanovic

Its simple, and makes tons of sense for both sides. I hope when Rod calls about Evans the conversation turns towards a Collison deal.

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Old 01-30-2006, 08:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

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Go Get him Rod. Its like when Rod called Toronto to get Marshall, and VC's name popped up. I think Collison could be a guy you give up 2 first round picks for.
maybe a 1st and a 2nd but not 2 first's
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

It depends on the firsts. Seattle would accept if they still plan to keep Radmanovic and possibly Reggie Evans. The problem is the Nets aren't under the cap and Seattle doesn't want the mistake that is Marc Jackson. You do not need to include him though as Plannic works, I believe.

Collison would compliment Krstic quite well. He is a solid interior defender and he can rebound. He also has a decen (and improving) post-up game though his post moves are limited.
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

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It depends on the firsts. Seattle would accept if they still plan to keep Radmanovic and possibly Reggie Evans.

Collison would compliment Krstic quite well. He is a solid interior defender and he can rebound. He also has a decent (and improving) post-up game though his post moves are limited.

The Firsts would probably be around what we expect. A pick in the low-mid 20's for the Nets and a pick in the low-mid 20's for the Clippers.

If you are Rod Thorn you almost have to surrender these picks. It would be unfair to Kidd to NOT attempt to put the pieces around him now...who wants to wait for a low 1st rounder or 2 to develop? With Frank as the coach, you can be sure that you will need to wait a few years for that to happen, and these will most likely not be big impact rookies if they are drafted in the 20's. At some point, if you really think this team can win a title now...you have to give up both picks if thats what you need to do to grab some quality help for this team.

Not to mention that we will basically have the equivalent of 2 First rounders over the next 2 years or so...with Wright beginning to see real action next season, and Ilic on the way over. Krstic and Collison would be a great tandem. And Vlad would give us another guy who can hit an open shot when Vince or Kidd penetrate.

and I fixed the t that you left out in the word "decent" in your quote above so you dont look like an assh-le.
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The Firsts would probably be around what we expect. A pick in the low-mid 20's for the Nets and a pick in the low-mid 20's for the Clippers.

If you are Rod Thorn you almost have to surrender these picks. It would be unfair to Kidd to NOT attempt to put the pieces around him now...who wants to wait for a low 1st rounder or 2 to develop? With Frank as the coach, you can be sure that you will need to wait a few years for that to happen, and these will most likely not be big impact rookies if they are drafted in the 20's. At some point, if you really think this team can win a title now...you have to give up both picks if thats what you need to do to grab some quality help for this team.

Not to mention that we will basically have the equivalent of 2 First rounders over the next 2 years or so...with Wright beginning to see real action next season, and Ilic on the way over.
I do. You do. Most others base their opinions about this on the result of the most recent game.

Awesome post. The Nets have to try and win a title this year. They have to try.
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

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I do. You do. Most others base their opinions about this on the result of the most recent game.

Awesome post. The Nets have to try and win a title this year. They have to try.


In all honesty I do too..I feel like all this team needs a little bit more help, and they are capable of being the best the NBA has to offer. It gets really annoying when Stefanski or Thorn talk about how happy they are with keeping 2 draft picks, and how deep the draft is, blah blah blah. Do you think Kidd gives a f how deep the draft is? Give up both picks and bring in the RIGHT player, not some guy who will end up failing, like Evans or Wilcox. Thats what you will get for 1 first rounder, nothing more and nothing better.

We have Ilic/Drejer/Wright (I dont consider this his rookie season). Isnt that enough? We have a future....plus RJ and Krstic are very young. Its time to go for the whole thing...not just be satisfied with 2 sh-t draft picks. Like you said...they have to try.
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

Sorry, but Nick Collison isn't going to make us serious championship contenders. Not worth 2 first round picks.
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

Seattle is NOT giving up two young bigs for a defensiveless swingman, an aging PF and 2 high first rounders (at the moment).
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

Seattle is also looking at the prospect of losing Evans & Radmo for nothing.
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Seattle is also looking at the prospect of losing Evans & Radmo for nothing.
So they jump at a bum deal like that? I know we're Nets fans, but be realistic. I'm sure they could do much better. Or worse yet, let them walk and not be forced to absorb MJax's contract.
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

My preferred deal is Evans & Flip for Padgett & lower 1st rounder.

The minutes that Collison, Evans, Vlad & Flip are playing for the Sonics are kinda saying they don't want them back.
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Re: Theres no reason for Nick Collison not to be available

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Go Get him Rod. Its like when Rod called Toronto to get Marshall, and VC's name popped up. I think Collison could be a guy you give up 2 first round picks for. He is FAR superior to Evans. Throw in Zoran and there is no reason for Seattle not to take that offer. They are a rebuilding team that just fired its coach, and Collison gets no minutes.

If you want to get really creative, make it

2 #1 picks
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Mjax

for

Collison
Radmanovic

Its simple, and makes tons of sense for both sides. I hope when Rod calls about Evans the conversation turns towards a Collison deal.

Radmanovic has the right to turn down any deal as a fifth year rookie and he said he would because in doing so, he would give up his Bird rights. Doing that would limit him to an MLE contract and he believes he is worth more than that. Someone should inform him about the market for marginal players who have a history of being trouble in the locker room, whether it be in the NBA or on the Serbian National Team, where he has wound up in fights at the end of the World Championships in 2002 and Eurobasket 2005.
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Radmanovic has the right to veto any trade this year, which he said he will use. I agree that the Nets should go after either Collison or Evans, but there is simply no player on the team I would want. Draft picks for Collison seems kinda cheap.
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