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Charlie Brown · 02-02-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandKenyon6

Kidd has never been a good finisher. NEVER. Never in his entire career has he been able to finish. This is nothing new.

So you are saying that in the Finals years, on a break, Kidd couldn't finish on a break?

I remember Kidd taking it one on two, one on three, creating his own break, initiating contact, and making with consistancy. Kidd can no longer do that.

Charlie Brown · 02-02-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ Grand NJ

WTF are you guys talking about? Kidd often uses his strength in traffic and is a great finisher for a point guard. He misses ONE layup and all of a sudden he's too old. He was trying to draw contact, which obviously made the shot harder(i know most you don't ball, but when you're expecting contact, it's ALWAYS a harder shot)... If he made that shot and got the foul, we'd have a thread on how good of a finisher Kidd is, and how much of a veteran he is. That's how much this board changes their mind.

My opinion is independent of this board.

Like I said I love JKidd, but to say that he is the same player that he was doing the Finals years does a great disservice to how good he was back then.

pinetar · 02-02-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ Grand NJ

WTF are you guys talking about? Kidd often uses his strength in traffic and is a great finisher for a point guard. He misses ONE layup and all of a sudden he's too old. He was trying to draw contact, which obviously made the shot harder(i know most you don't ball, but when you're expecting contact, it's ALWAYS a harder shot)... If he made that shot and got the foul, we'd have a thread on how good of a finisher Kidd is, and how much of a veteran he is. That's how much this board changes their mind.

I agree.

In the Finals years Kidd showed his ability to take over games and score at will when his team needed it. He still can do that, although he does it less. On that first Finals team he had to: Van Horn and Kittles were not good crunch time players, and Martin and Jefferson were still too raw offensively. On the current team, Carter and Jefferson can carry most of the scoring load in crunch time, so the Nets are less dependent on Kidd's scoring.

**GrandKenyon6** · 02-04-2006, 12:35 PM

He still can't finish. Never has been able to.

**GrandKenyon6** · 02-04-2006, 12:37 PM

Collins can't finish either. Grrrr. You gotta put that down big man.

7M3 · 02-04-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

So you are saying that in the Finals years, on a break, Kidd couldn't finish on a break?

I remember Kidd taking it one on two, one on three, creating his own break, initiating contact, and making with consistancy. Kidd can no longer do that.

You're remembering highlight plays. Kidd can still make those highlight plays. But, even in those Finals years (and I watched virtually every single game), he missed a lot of wide open layups.

**GrandKenyon6** · 02-04-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 7M3

You're remembering highlight plays. Kidd can still make those highlight plays. But, even in those Finals years (and I watched virtually every single game), he missed a lot of wide open layups.

Yup.

JoeOtter15 · 02-04-2006, 02:23 PM

he just missed a layup today also

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