ByeByeKMart

I'm wondering why the majority of heat fans don't think we have a legitimate argument for beating them in a 7 game series.

First of all, it is of my opinion that we are the better team and will win in a 7 game series, but I can respect any arguments they make to the contrary.

Here is my argument:

Last year, the Heat won more games against elite teams than they lost. This year, that is different. To say that regular season means nothing is absurd, since all teams try their hardest when they are playing against elite teams. In the regular season, I am sure they tried hard against the top teams, and still did not pull away with better than a 2-11 record. I highly doubt that there has been a team with a record equal or worse than 2-11 that has won the championship.

Last year, the Heat torched the Nets in their games, winning by 20ish points. This year, it is different. Again, to say that regular season doesn't mean anything is silly, as it was clear both teams were playing at a high level in all of these games.

This year, our team is much better than last year. Nenad has improved. Carter has now played for more than one season (even the Bulls weren't great when MJ returned for his first season after retiremenet). Jefferson hasn't been injured. Kidd is more recovered from his surgery.

We match up much better against the Heat this year than we did last year. We don't have to worry about their perimeter threats as much. Last year, Jones torched us by making open shot after open shot. The Heat don't have the players to do the same this year.


To me, I really have no idea why some people predict a sweep. Can anyone explain this to me? I respect the Heats argument that SHaq turns it up in the post season (statistically, he doesn't though), and that they have Wade, so tehy are a good team and can win against us.

But to predict that they are a far better team? I don't understand... can someone explain?

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cpawfan

The short answer is that there is tons of homerism on both sides and objectivity is tossed out the window.

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ravor44

If we look at the OVERALL team roster..Heat is clearly better than the Nets..but one thing that prevents that or makes an arguement is that the Heat's players might not well mesh together...(see Antoine Walker) but the NETS have a very CLEAR chance to beat the Heat...GO NETS!!!

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NetIncome

A shorter answer is that the Nets have beaten the Heat three times and were robbed on the fourth.

Neither that nor the 2-11 record against division leaders amount to homerism. They are facts.

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Because they are FANS! The media and the history from last seasons playoffs also backs up the belief.

ghoti

I think it's like this.

If Shaq is healthy and able to play effectively, Heat fans have every reason to be confident.

If not, the Heat will be underdogs.

Since there's no way to know Shaq's health status in a prospective playoff series against the Nets, there's no point in worrying about it now.

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jarkid

and we have better team chemistry now, and the best post defender Jason Collins, we could win.

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Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Shaq isn't saving it for the playoffs. He is simply not the player he once was. Injuries have taken a toll on his game and he's lost his quickness and explosiveness. He is a shell of his former self and that's not going to miraculously change once the playoffs begin. Please open your eyes. Miami just is not a good basketball team. To put them on the level of the Pistons and the Nets on the level below is simply ridiculous. A more accurate picture of the East would be the Pistons at the top with the Heat and Nets on the same level, which is a level well below Detroit. Stop calling Miami contenders. They are clearly not contenders. They have a clear inability to play against the top tier teams. Even if Miami makes it to the conference finals against Detroit, the chances of them winning that series is a big doughnut. Hell, I doubt they'd even win a game. They match up terribly with Detroit this year. The problems with Miami are that they rid themselves of all their shooters and they traded for Antoine Walker. No team with Antoine Walker as a major part of the team is ever going anywhere. This is fact. You have to surround Shaq and Wade with shooters. Last year they had them and that's why they were so good. That's why they were able to beat the Nets and Wizards so easily and nearly defeat Detroit. They probably would've defeated Detroit with a healthy Shaq/Wade. Not only did Miami lose their 3 best shooters, but they lost their best defender as well. James Posey is not Eddie Jones. He's like an injury prone poor man's Eddie Jones. The Nets have been able to beat the Heat this year because 1. Miami has no outside threats and 2. Shaq is considerably slower and less effective. Gary Payton is a poor shooter. Jason Williams and James Posey are inconsistent shooters. Antoine Walker is a complete brickfest/turnoverfest/embarrassment to the game of basketball. Eddie Jones, Damon Jones, and Rasual Butler could make open shots consistently. These guys can't. The Heat just are not that good a basketball team this year.

IbizaXL

this is why i like cpawfan. straight to the point, keeping it simple. LOL

I cant speak for every Heat fan obviously. But me personally, everytime someone asks me of my teams chances, overall i feel comfortable going far in the playoffs. The only thing that shakes me a bit, is our defense. Not just against the Nets. The Heats defense shows up once in awhile. I hope this isnt tue in the playoffs.

Other than that, i think The Heat can do well:

-We have Veterans with tremendous amounts of playoff expirience.
-We have our clutch players like D-Wade(among a few who have been clutch for us, although not as much as wade)
-We have our two Superstars in Shaq and Wade
-We have one of the deepest bench in the league
-We have our HOF Coach in Pat Riley

Thats why i feel confident in this Heat team. IMO, the positives outweigh the negatives.

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IbizaXL

random thought of the day? LOL

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Netted

That about sums it up. Although you left out Dooling who was a better back-up PG for Miami's system than Payton. Dooling is a better shooter than Payton which is what they need to spread the floor and give Shaq and Wade room to operate.

MexicanJesus

What was the Celtics record versus the Nets in the 01-02 season? Then what happened in the postseason? Let's not get overconfident, Netsfans.

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