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thacarter · 05-03-2006, 12:52 AM

i dont give a **** whether peja plays or not, i called the nets to go on a 3 game winning streak and aint nothing is gonna stop it from happening..nets to win on thursday to close this series out

Mogriffjr · 05-03-2006, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JVR

What part of "2-0 with Peja, 0-3 without him" did you not understand?

You can whine and cry all you want, but the bottom line is, with Peja, the Pacers kicked your teams teeth in. Without him they lose. Doesn't matter what his numbers are, the mere presence of arguably the worlds best shooter is gonna demand a lot of attention from the Nets defense.

If Peja plays, the Pacers win. It's as simple as that.

Peja is a 3-time All-Star, at forward, in the Western Conference. He'd be a 4-5 time All-Star if it weren't for some bang ups the past 2 years.
You can call him a one-dimensional all you want. But tell me, when you're capable of shooting at 47/41/92, why do you need anything else? Thats like hating on Shaq because he doesn't make anything outside of the paint. When you have a dominate offensive weapon, that's all you need.
BTW - Peja is a better rebounder and an equal defender to both Jefferson and Carter, so if he's 1-dimensional, so are they.

You don't think being without 3 starters is a good excuse for losing? You do relieze a Pacers team at 100% strength would've already put this series away, probably in a sweep, right?

lol at Peja being as good defensively as JEff and Carter. RJ is one of the Nets better defenders on the team, while VC has been solid although he'll never be a great defender, he'll always have the advantage over Peja. The Pacers have to put Peja on RJ and RJ surely blows past Peja almost anytime he can.

I doubt a sweep woulda happened. You make it seem as if Peja has made a huge difference in this series. Bottom line is, if JO is ineffective, Nets shot at winning is much higher. When JO is effective, Pacers shot at winning is much higher. I don't doubt that Peja's scoring would have made a difference because their 11 or so pts is key. But his defense has been horrible. Peja splits time with Freddy Jones when Peja has played...there's a reason for that. He gets 11, he gives up around 15.

I also don't call the Pacers two wins kicking the Nets teeth in. Only 12pt win was a decisive win. The Nets have had 2.

**ghoti** · 05-03-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JVR

How am I baiting? Myself and my team are being insulted by annoying Nets fans and I'm simply taking up for them.

You started a nonsensical thread in the Nets forum about a player who has had no effect on this series being the key factor in the outcome.

How does that equate to your "team being insulted by annoying Nets fans"?

farouq710 · 05-03-2006, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JVR

What part of "2-0 with Peja, 0-3 without him" did you not understand?

You can whine and cry all you want, but the bottom line is, with Peja, the Pacers kicked your teams teeth in. Without him they lose. Doesn't matter what his numbers are, the mere presence of arguably the worlds best shooter is gonna demand a lot of attention from the Nets defense.

If Peja plays, the Pacers win. It's as simple as that.

Peja is a 3-time All-Star, at forward, in the Western Conference. He'd be a 4-5 time All-Star if it weren't for some bang ups the past 2 years.
You can call him a one-dimensional all you want. But tell me, when you're capable of shooting at 47/41/92, why do you need anything else? Thats like hating on Shaq because he doesn't make anything outside of the paint. When you have a dominate offensive weapon, that's all you need.
BTW - Peja is a better rebounder and an equal defender to both Jefferson and Carter, so if he's 1-dimensional, so are they.

You don't think being without 3 starters is a good excuse for losing? You do relieze a Pacers team at 100% strength would've already put this series away, probably in a sweep, right?

Are you kidding me? He's 6' 10'' he should be rebounding way better than his paltry 4-5 rebounds, and his defense sucks. How is he better than RJ when you factor in RJ's defense and scoring ability. I'll take RJ, a more versatile player with higher potential than Peja, a finished product that will only get worse. Also, you failed to defend your man Peja on his playoff chokes. Fact is he's still only scoring 11 pts per game and if you want to believe that Peja is the reason why you guys won those two games, keep thinking that because the real reason is Anthony Johnson. Let's see how much you defend Peja when he leaves you guys.

ravor44 · 05-03-2006, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JVR

How am I baiting? Myself and my team are being insulted by annoying Nets fans and I'm simply taking up for them.

What an I***T...

farouq710 · 05-03-2006, 03:57 AM

Mods close this thread, its about to get ugly.

KrispyKreme23 · 05-03-2006, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JVR

Pacers are 2-0 when Peja plays. 0-3 when he doesn't. We just don't have enough offense without the multi-time All-Star Peja Stojakovic on the floor. Granger has performed well, but his offense is still behind.

So thats what it comes down to IMO. If Peja plays, Pacers in 7. If Peja doesnt play, Nets in 6.

BTW, congrats on barely beating us on your home court while we're without 3 starters.

How about we postpone the series and disregard the first five games? We can all sign a petition to David Stern, stating that the players will not play until the Pacers are fully healthy. And once the new series starts, if any player gets injured, the game will then be canceled and we can restart once the injury heals. Sound good?

Seriously though, the Pacers haven't been at full strength for 2 years, whether it was because of suspensions or injuries. Your team consists of a bunch of injury prone crybabies. They have shown that they can win with basically anyone out there and that an injury doesn't hurt the team that much, mostly due to Carlisle's coaching. Stop using the injury excuse. The Pacers are NEVER at full strength.

Petey · 05-03-2006, 04:59 AM

If you are going to bank your season on the guy who sat out to protect his next contract, and would have made a difference in that last play as he would had put up the rock instead of the 5 guys whom were on the floor passing it around like a hot potatoe and were scared to shot, that's not a good sign at all.

Good for the Nets.

-Petey

Moses1 · 05-03-2006, 11:10 AM

The Pacers will blow us out at home and then we will win game 7 at home. If Peja manages to come back or Tinsley comes back without a couple taco crunch wrap supremes in his stomach, they have a chance at game 7. Tinsley is a much better PG then AJ is simply because of his speed and court vision. Anyways, don't be surprised when JO drops 40 on us in game 6.

mjm1 · 05-03-2006, 11:18 AM

If Vince Carter continues to play at the level of dominance exhibited in game 5 (as well as games 2 and 4 for) there is very very little the Pacers could do to effect the outcome of this series. Simply put, you have no answer for carter and thus takes complete control of the game late in the 4th quarter when the nets close out games. As stated early, the nets will go as far as carter carries them.

**Kidd Karma** · 05-03-2006, 11:21 AM

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as long as he can get 15 assists on AJ there's really nothing to complain about

Nice shot of Kidd. He's still wearing his shoes they first put out in 1996-97, well of course now it's in a red version.

JVR · 05-03-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ghoti

You started a nonsensical thread in the Nets forum about a player who has had no effect on this series being the key factor in the outcome.

How does that equate to your "team being insulted by annoying Nets fans"?

With Peja = 2-0

Without Peja = 0-3

If that's not having an effect on the game, then nobody has an effect on the game.

The Net's can't beat the Pacers with both Jermaine O'Neal and Peja Stojakovic playing.

Real · 05-03-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JVR

With Peja = 2-0

Without Peja = 0-3

If that's not having an effect on the game, then nobody has an effect on the game.

The Net's can't beat the Pacers with both Jermaine O'Neal and Peja Stojakovic playing.

Then maybe Peja should suit up one more time so we can beat them both. That means about as little to me as possible. That doesn't change the fact that the Nets are up 3-2 in the series, and are the better team.

JVR · 05-03-2006, 04:42 PM

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