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06-19-2007, 12:33 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
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Thorton is what we need. Lets fac it Yi is not slipping to 17 and is ovrrated. Thadeas would be a nic asst but not what we need. I hope Thorton falls to us. He would start and b th first dcent pf in years.
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Thornton is not going to be a PF in the NBA.
I wouldn't mind taking Thaddeus, but that may only be because I know more about him than Thornton or Yi. (I honestly don't know a thing about Yi expect that he could be as young as 19 or as old as 25. My knowledge of international players is not the greatest.)
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06-19-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
Yi is slipping, all the way to 3.
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06-19-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
I'd love if thaddeus fell to us. I could see him playing the 4 if we go small ball.
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06-19-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
i'd be happy about thaddeus. he's crazy athletic, and very talented.
and yi wouldn't be bad either....but thornton....naaaa he seems a bit overrated to me. i don't know enough about him tho.
if any of those aren't available, and if any good players don't slip, i hope the nets choose williams.
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06-19-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
This was posted in the NBA Draft Forum:
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"I was courtside at today's workout. Kevin McHale, Rob Babcock, Jim Stack, Fred Hoiberg, Randy Wittman and all the assistant coaches were there. Foye, McCants and Craig Smith were also there. They had been working out earlier this morning. I was told that the three of them have been working out together at Target Center every morning and that all three look really, really good. I was also told that Smith lost about 15 pounds -- all fat. Now he's not only big, but cut. McCants hyperextended his knee this morning, but I was told it's not serious. Sid Hartman stopped by and starting giving Wittman some shi1 about failing to return his phone calls.
Freddie ran the competitive drills.
It was a lot of fun to watch these four guys for 90 minutes run through drills and get after each other. The 1-on-1 and 2-on2 drills were very intense. The guys were banging each other around, diving for the ball and hustling ever second they were on the court. All of them came up limping at one point or another in the workouts. Clearly they are all very talented, but the differences are bigger than I thought and watching the workout really clarified some things.
There is no question that Thornton was the best of the 4 -- and it wasn't even close. Al was a man among boys. The important point, however, is that Thornton was the best of the four in evey category. He was, by far, the best shooter - both in shooting drills and the competitive drills (1-on-1 and 2-on-2). Thornton was the quickest of the four, consistently blowing by whoever was defending him. Thornton was clearly the strongest of the four. He was the best finisher inside, the best dunker, best ball-handler and -- brace yourselves -- the best defender. On one play, guarding Brewer 1-on-1, he poked the ball away and then beat Brewer to the ball. Twice he blocked his man's layup in the 1-on-1 drills. Players had a really hard time passing on him. His quick hands (and sometimes feet) would often deflect passes. Also, the guy is incredibly intense -- probably the most intense of the four. My favorite moment was when Thornton took Brewer to the hole and dunked right over him in the paint. McHale turned to Wittman and said, "that's a man."
I know Brewer is the popular pick and has been pumped up by some dweebs in the Media. And don't get me wrong, I'm a Brewer fan and think he'll be a good pro. But the second best player on the floor today was NOT Brewer; it was Thaddeus Young. He has a very sweet stroke and showed some really nice moves to the hole. He was the second best ball-handler after Thornton and looked surprisingly polished for an 18-year old Freshman. He may end up becoming the best of the group in 4 or 5 years.
O.K. Brewer fans -- Corey was the 3rd best in the group and not far behind Young. He is very, very thin, but what I liked about him was how physical he was. He did not back down from anyone, including Thornton. Although thin, he is surprisingly strong. He has a nice stroke, but I liked Young's shot a bit better. Brewer clearly won the personality contest. He was constantly smiling and jawing with McHale while on the court. I think he'd become an instant hit with the fans. But the most disturbing thing about Brewer was his ball-handling. At his weight he'll have to play the 2-guard spot, but his ball-handling is very shaking for a SG by NBA standards. And he will get the crab beat out of him as a defender. He has a very thin frame, so there's a limit to how much weight he can put on. And yes, those who have reported McHale's man-crush on Brewer were correct. McHale clearly loves Brewer. So I would expect the Wolves to take Brewer if he's available.
Here's the tough one for me to swallow. As most of you know, I've been a very big Julian Wright booster. Well, I have to admit he was clearly the worst of the bunch today. He was definitely the longest as you'd expect based on his wingspand measurement at the Orlando camp. And he's a very good athlete. But his shooting is as bad as advertised. More disturbing is that he has a long way to go as a ball-handler. He just did not have the ball-handling skils to take his man to the hole in the 1-on-1 drills. In fact, he was the only one fo the four who could not effectively drive to the hole. He was, however, very good on the defensive end and will be an excellent shot-blocker in the NBA.
Bottom line: If Thornton is available at #7, the Wolves should grab him. He can help instantly because of his age (23) and the overall maturity of his game. And he's not just very skilled -- he's also a tremendous athlete. Add to that his great intensity and competitiveness and you have the makings of a very special NBA player. He plays with a chip on his shoulder like most of the best players in the NBA. He's the strong, athletic SF the Wolves need. If he's not available, I'd take T. Young. "
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http://www.basketballforum.com/nba-d...-thornton.html
Just to give another perspective on Thornton and Thad Young.
Last edited by JCB : 06-19-2007 at 06:27 PM.
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06-19-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
not surprised julian wright didn't do all that great, i didn't really expect him to. he wasn't even the best player on the team, rush was.
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06-19-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
I'd love Al Thorton!!!!
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06-19-2007, 06:41 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
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Originally Posted by Kid Chocolate
I'd love Al Thorton!!!!
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I hear he is soft as a cream puff
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06-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
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I hear he is soft as a cream puff
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You're right. UConn has 14 players in the league, most in the NBA, no creampuffs, not system products, that is a FACT.
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06-19-2007, 06:46 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
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You're right. UConn has 14 players in the league, most in the NBA, no creampuffs, not system products, that is a FACT.
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No the FACT is that all 14 should be starting
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06-19-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
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No the FACT is that all 14 should be starting
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Regardless of whether or not they start, they are all stars/future stars. HUSKIES=ALLSTARS. CALHOUN PREPARES THEM FOR THE NEXT LEVEL.
There are 2 of the superstars!
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06-19-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
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Regardless of whether or not they start, they are all stars/future stars. HUSKIES=ALLSTARS. CALHOUN PREPARES THEM FOR THE NEXT LEVEL.
There are 2 of the superstars!
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FACT, the Nets don't make the finals without their UCONN cheerleader
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06-19-2007, 06:55 PM
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Re: Thorton, Yi, and Young (Thaddeus) slipin
Sometimes I think we need draft Thaddeus to add our SF depth,
when we have Richard, Vince, Thaddeus, Wright, Adams, Boki,
then we can say who are you LeBron James?
although we still need a big.
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