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11-26-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
Thats fine Maxa, I am just glad you are putting together something with him.
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11-26-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
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Good points arhie. I think you do more about the stats and connections but to be fair, I do not post on this board that much. I think my opinion and thoughts on Vince and how he plays are just as valid as the next guy's. I have seen 100% of his games since the 2002-2003 season and have tons of his vintage games on DVD. I watch and study all the analysis on TV and formed my own opinions on Vince. But I am not one to pull out stats and prove points. I am one to look at the game as a whole and analyze plays and facial reactions and stuff like that. But hey, its all good. I am a huge Vince fan and editing mixes is my favorite thing to do because it is my profession but I can assure you and me combined would know A LOT on Vince.
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11-26-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
If it happened the Lakers would want all the young talent we have meaning Sean, Marcus, and Kristic plus Vince and draft picks maybe Collins. Did you guys see the Detroit offer that almost went down?
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11-26-2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
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I know Vince more than any other nba fan ever. Don't worry he'll come back strong this year. He'll still end up with 24-26 ppg 6 rpg and 5 apg.
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To be fair if the Nets are winning with Vince averaging 16 ppg and being a little more efficent than in years past. I'll take that over Vince giving us 24-26 ppg and jacking up off balanced fadeaway 3's from 30 feet.
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11-26-2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
If Frank starts Vince, he gets %100 healthy, then he will average 24ppg. He is getting good #s in the 4th quarters of games. Its the 1st 3 that are the problem for him pts wise. He is not looking to get the ball, they are not looking to get him the ball. Its either to RJ or Malik. Asking Vince to get 12pts every half is not too much to ask. And if he is a starter and he gets the ball, he will get his 24ppg....right on his career average.
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11-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
Vince in the 07-08 season so far has been better than in years past. His shot selection has been better since his return from injury. He's not jacking up wild shots but he is mixing it up with penetrations as well as shooting a good % from the field. I dont care if he gets 24ppg as long as we win.
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11-26-2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
Vince is just warming up right now. Before the ankle it was the thumb/ new offense. Now he is easing his way back in, although I believe if he was given the minutes last night he would have put at least 25 points on the board. Look for him to get 30+ against Memphis on good shooting as well as RJ. There is no reason why both of them together can't take 36-40 shots a game. THe nets take too long sometimes to take a shot, that is a major problem.
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11-26-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
I am with you, eddymac, in the sense that winning is all that matters. Vince has had all the personal glory, but now its time to win ; any way possible and I am totally down with that.
But the team will not continue to win with Vince scoring 16 a game. RJ may be off some nights or the other team may score tons...bottom line is we need Vince to score 24ppg to ultimately succeed this season.
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11-26-2007, 10:54 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
Yap 24 ppg is the key number - every year in his career when he scores 24 ppg his team makes the playoffs. Might as well stick to it.
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11-27-2007, 12:04 PM
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I am with you, eddymac, in the sense that winning is all that matters. Vince has had all the personal glory, but now its time to win ; any way possible and I am totally down with that.
But the team will not continue to win with Vince scoring 16 a game. RJ may be off some nights or the other team may score tons...bottom line is we need Vince to score 24ppg to ultimately succeed this season.
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By the end of the seaosn Vince will be averaging 20+ ppg. We could potentially have two 20 point scorers once Vince gets his average up.
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11-27-2007, 07:13 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
Good game by Vince, but our team played horrible defense. It just seems tehy can't put together the complete package throughout the game for 48 minutes. Thats why we haven't blown out teams since last year.
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11-27-2007, 07:33 PM
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Re: Why Kobe for Carter may be feasible
Why is it all about Carter's ppg? I just want to win...
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11-27-2007, 07:58 PM
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The more Vince scores, the more attention he draws, creating more opportunities and easier looks for his teammates, causing an increase in our offensive efficiency which in turn causes other teams to rush their shots causing misses causing transition points for our team. Ultimately leading to victory as long as its done efficiently.
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11-27-2007, 08:14 PM
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The more Vince scores, the more attention he draws, creating more opportunities and easier looks for his teammates, causing an increase in our offensive efficiency which in turn causes other teams to rush their shots causing misses causing transition points for our team. Ultimately leading to victory as long as its done efficiently.
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It's a team game team team.
Vince needs other players to step up. (RJ, Krtic)
It's too much to ask of him to live up to his potential Vince doesn't seem to enjoy the pressure.
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11-27-2007, 08:20 PM
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