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**Diable** · 11-09-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketeer

if you wouldn't accept either of those deals, then you don't care about winning basketball games.

Every team in the NBA has a couple of above average players....Big damned deal...Last place teams have players of that caliber and the Hornets already have a player that's better than any of those guys.His name is David West and I think they took him with the 19th pick in the NBA draft.There's absolutely nothing special about them in the NBA and they will never take you anywhere unless they're the third best player on your team.Peja is better than Gordon when he's healthy...And he's not good for much unless you can create open shots for him.

HB · 11-09-2007, 07:41 PM

Probably if he keeps getting injured. At some point Baron was considered untradeable too.

**girllovesthegame** · 11-09-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HB

Probably if he keeps getting injured. At some point Baron was considered untradeable too.

Maybe, but at this point in his career, the answer is NO. Baron was a Hornet for 6 years before he was traded. There is no reason for us to consider trading Paul right now. None.

rocketeer · 11-09-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Diable

Every team in the NBA has a couple of above average players....Big damned deal...Last place teams have players of that caliber and the Hornets already have a player that's better than any of those guys.His name is David West and I think they took him with the 19th pick in the NBA draft.There's absolutely nothing special about them in the NBA and they will never take you anywhere unless they're the third best player on your team.Peja is better than Gordon when he's healthy...And he's not good for much unless you can create open shots for him.

david west is not even close to hinrich, gordon, roy, or aldridge. come on.

no point in me arguing this any further, if you can't even see that much.

**girllovesthegame** · 11-09-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketeer

david west is not even close to hinrich, gordon, roy, or aldridge. come on.

no point in me arguing this any further, if you can't even see that much.

So now you're undervaluing West. You say we're overvaluing Paul but you're undervaluing West. If there's no need in you arguing this any further, you can kindly see your way out.

rocketeer · 11-09-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by girllovesthegame

So now you're undervaluing West. You say we're overvaluing Paul but you're undervaluing West. If there's no need in you arguing this any further, you can kindly see your way out.

you would take david west over any one of those four players?

bee-fan · 11-09-2007, 08:16 PM

Wow this thread took off since my last post. My answer is still the same I (as a fan) would not trade CP for NO ONE. Call it whatever you want overvalue or whatever, but I feel Chris is too valuable to this team. I'd also take David west over the others also. Remember this is a Hornets forum. You may not like the answer, but please respect it.

leidout · 11-09-2007, 11:27 PM

Wow, i'm pretty surprised at some of the responses i've seen. I imagined only guys like LeBron, Yao, Nash & Duncan were trade-proof (as long as they keep contending for a title). Guess i was wrong, Chris Paul is also trade-proof from the perspective of Hornets fans.

Just because i forgot to mention it in the original post, i had intended for my question to apply to this year. Because if he gets injured over & over, of course he's tradeable. But thanks for the input everyone!

**Diable** · 11-09-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketeer

you would take david west over any one of those four players?

David West is 18th in the NBA in PER right now.LaMarcus Aldridge has the highest PER of those players...He's 67th out of the eligible players.You simply have no clue about this.

rocketeer · 11-10-2007, 02:01 AM

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David West is 18th in the NBA in PER right now.LaMarcus Aldridge has the highest PER of those players...He's 67th out of the eligible players.You simply have no clue about this.

5 games. 5 games including the best game of his career. numbers correct themselves over time. come back in a month and tell me david west is better than them. it's funny enough now, but will be even more hilarious then.

**knicksfan** · 11-10-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by girllovesthegame

Maybe, but at this point in his career, the answer is NO. Baron was a Hornet for 6 years before he was traded. There is no reason for us to consider trading Paul right now. None.

Just like there was no reason for trading Baron Davis for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis, and then losing the best part of that deal (Not that he was amazing anyway) to Atlanta for nothing? Anyway, saying that you won't trade Chris Paul for Lebron James is rediculous. Paul is amazing, but he's no Lebron James (AKA the best player in the league.) Anyway, that was point one. Point two is that teams make decisions based on facts that none of us will be aware of anytime soon. I'm 99.5 percent sure that if Cleveland offered Lebron for Paul your GM would accept that deal very fast.

**girllovesthegame** · 11-10-2007, 01:40 PM

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Just like there was no reason for trading Baron Davis for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis, and then losing the best part of that deal (Not that he was amazing anyway) to Atlanta for nothing? Anyway, saying that you won't trade Chris Paul for Lebron James is rediculous. Paul is amazing, but he's no Lebron James (AKA the best player in the league.) Anyway, that was point one. Point two is that teams make decisions based on facts that none of us will be aware of anytime soon. I'm 99.5 percent sure that if Cleveland offered Lebron for Paul your GM would accept that deal very fast.

Yes, there was a reason. Baron wanted to be traded. He was disgruntled and there was no point in keeping him. What does Atlanta have to do with this again? What has Speedy been doing in ATL? Like you said, teams make decisions based on facts that none of us will be aware of anytime soon but at the time, getting rid of Baron was addition by subtraction. Maybe the GM would trade Paul for Lebron. But the OP is asking the fans, not the GM.

**knicksfan** · 11-10-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by girllovesthegame

Yes, there was a reason. Baron wanted to be traded. He was disgruntled and there was no point in keeping him. What does Atlanta have to do with this again? What has Speedy been doing in ATL? Like you said, teams make decisions based on facts that none of us will be aware of anytime soon but at the time, getting rid of Baron was addition by subtraction. Maybe the GM would trade Paul for Lebron. But the OP is asking the fans, not the GM.

So if someone wants to be traded (even demands it) you trade him for far under his value? Would you support trading Chris Paul and a bad contract on your team of your GM's choice (I don't know your team well enough to throw out a realistic name, I'll admit that) to the New York Knicks for Nate Robinson and the expiring Malik Rose? I mean, Nate is and will be a better player then Speedy will ever be, but I'm sure you don't see that trade as being fair for your team. I as a Knicks fan would love that trade to happen, but I wouldn't suggest it on the message boards, knowing full well that the chance it happens is about as good as that of David West becoming the next Kareem Abdul Jabar.

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