Bogg

I'm not saying the Hornets did anything wrong, or even that they need to bring him back. However, fairly or unfairly, he's going to look at guys out of his draft class like Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, and Kevin Love as his peers, and the Hornets(correctly) haven't made him a priority the way those other players were by their respective teams. The Hornets are lukewarm on Gordon; they'll sign him to a long-term contract, but only at the right price. Nothing wrong with that, but there's also nothing wrong with the players being honest about it.


EDIT: As far as how much they should pay him, I'd be hesitant to commit too much more than Gallinari money to him, maybe $50 over four years, but I wouldn't be happy about it. It may just be best for New Orleans to find a sign-and-trade destination for him in return for another high pick or a good prospect.

Luke

I don't know about that. There's really no reason for Williams to stay in Brooklyn at this point, and getting a guy who will at least sneak into some all star games for him isn't an awful scenario. It's better then just letting him walk.

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girllovesthegame

Well they've been saying all the 'right' things about him being a Hornet long term so I guess we'll see. He's a restricted free agent. Lots of restricted free agents test the market. Do they not? I don't see how you're saying they haven't made him a priority though after they offered the guy a 4 year extension after he only played 2 games. What should they have done in your opinion to show he's a priortity to them? Should they have paid him a max deal before the deadline but after only playing 2 games? Should they have continued to pursue him even AFTER the deadline ignoring the rules?

And I think they did in fact offer him about $50M over 4 years. That's $12.5M a year. After playing 2 games.

Bogg

You......uh, you didn't read the part where I said I don't actually think the Hornets did anything wrong and may, in fact, be best served not bringing him back, did you?

girllovesthegame

Uh, yes I did. You didn't say the Hornets did anything wrong but I just didn't agree to where you said they were lukewarm with him. They offered him the contract and it was rejected. Are they supposed to be in the media each and everyday during the offseason talking about how much Gordon is a priority? I wish I could play 2 games for a team and they were lukewarm with me by offering me $50M over 4 years. Why would they be best served not bringing him back? Sure, I could see not bringing him back if he wants too doggone much money. Should they not bring him back because he's injury prone? He's had his injuries sure. They were different injuries and not any kind of lingering, degenerative conditions or anything though.

Bogg

That's exactly it. They'd like to bring him back, but only at the right price, and if someone else wants to give him a huge deal they'll be fine with letting him walk. Gordon will be happy playing for whoever gives him the most money, Hornets or not. If you don't like describing that situation as "lukewarm", then fine, but neither side is in love with the other, that's just the way it is.

girllovesthegame

How many teams would offer Eric Gordon Kevin Love or Russell Westbrook money right now?

girllovesthegame

Of course they should only bring him back at the right price. That would only be smart. And he SHOULD be happy playing for whoever gives him the most money, Hornets or not. I took 'lukewarm' to mean the Hornets have shown little to no enthusiam when in fact, that just wasn't true. They offered the extension and always talk about how they'd like to have him longterm. That's not lukewarm imo. Now if they never offered the extension in the first place and decided to wait until the summer, and you hardly ever hear them talk about him, then I'd say THAT is lukewarm. I guess we just have different definitions of the word lukewarm.

Bogg

That's.....not really relevant. The point is that's the kind of figure that Gordon has in his head, and there are teams out there with the means and a hole at shooting guard, so that's what he's going to try to get. He'll come back to the Hornets if they wind up the highest bidder, and the Hornets are fine with him going out and testing the market if he isn't willing to sign for what they want to pay him.

EDIT: This was in response to the question of how many teams would give him Love/Westbrook money

girllovesthegame

What's ....not really relevant? The fact that I disgree with you what I think lukewarm means?

ETA: Oh ok. It's just a question. I want to know how many teams would give him that kind of money right now.

ETA: I'm sure he and his agent are going to try to get as much money as they can. What player wouldn't?

Bogg

Yea, now we're just arguing semantics(literally).

Bogg

How many teams would realistically offer Gordon a max contract.

girllovesthegame

Yeah, I saw you edit to say what your response was in reference to AFTER I asked what was irrelevant.

I don't think there's anything more for me to add on this subject.

Bogg

Oh, alright. Charlotte may pay him out of pure desperation to get someone who can score, and with a move or two Utah could free up some space or work a sign-and-trade to have him solve their problem on the perimeter. I could see Minnesota wanting to work out a sign and trade for him, and the Pacers need a real shooting guard and may be willing to trade Granger straight up for him. Brooklyn may get desperate for a face if Williams and Wallace leave, and Washington could create cap space as well. There are definitely places where he could land, it just depends on how individual front offices feel about him. I really think that Jordan and the Charlotte front office are the wild card in all this, though, especially if they go either Robinson or Drummond in the draft.

girllovesthegame

I know there are places he could land. There's no doubt about that. There's always somewhere a player could land. I just wanted to know which teams would offer him Love/Westbrook kind of money. Which, imo, would be overpaying him. But, teams overpay players all the time. I don't think it would be smart for the Hornets to do it though. If the Hornets can take on Granger's salary, then why wouldn't they just offer that to Gordon? I think $50M over 4 is a fair deal for Gordon. He's still young. He can still get another big deal after that deal, providing he doesn't have a career ending injury. I don't think that I'd go a whole lot over that though. Granger makes more than that.