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Old 02-23-2005, 09:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Double standard for Marbury?

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Because the better player doesn't bring down the play level of his team like the lesser player does in this instance.
did you see the suns without marbury last season , no sane person would hold your view that he held them down , it was obvious he was their best player , the problem is he is not good enough to be a good team's best player , the only small pg who is allen iverson and even then his team has to be built just right. Team are often better after he leaves because of what they ultimately get in return for him , jason kidd , steve nash , terrell brandon and wally szczerbiak



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Marbury has never gotten out of the first round, and his teams miss the playoffs more often than not. KG's teams were at least a lock for the first round no matter how little help he had.
1st round ? if thats your only reasoning you'll have to do some more explaining , my whole point (which you obviously missed ) is that garnett is much better than marbury so you shouldn't expect the same things from them , plus the 1st round isn't exactly something to brag about since of course the 1st time he made it was marb's rookie year (so he wasn't always a lock since he didn't make it his rookie year) making the 1st round means your team is avg. 8th out of 15....saying that KG could always make a mediocre showing recordwise means he's a winner ....what about this year is he more of a loser this year ...he isn't in the playoffs if the season ended today....by your definition he is at this moment now a loser.


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Comparing things based on divisional alignment rather than conference is a bit silly. What do the other Atlantic PGs have to do with winning? The Atlantic is atrocious. If KG were traded southwest would he suddenly become worse? I don't get that comparision. Iverson and Arenas were all-stars. Kidd and Francis were ahead of Marbury on that list.

1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Nowitzki

The way Dirk has played this year, I'd say Garnett has been 3rd quite often.

Furthermore, Marbury has brought these comparisions upon himself by declaring himself the best PG in the game.
you make my point for me ...anyway you slice it garnett is a better player , so all things being equal he should do better ...but all things are not equal he actually has a better team too, a much better team , but in reality even with all of the knicks injury woes the wolves are all of 6 games better playing far more below their potential than the knicks since they were a 58 win team last season....and though you would say dirk has been better ....most people would say otherwise ....for easily seen reasons.
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