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**Petey** · 12-23-2005, 06:00 AM

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"Don't get me wrong; it's not as if the Raptors are uncompromising. A Toronto source reveals the pick is on the table, but not without limits: "The unanswered question is how deep into the draft will it be protected from year to year."

-New York Post

Actually if true, it's a shocker.

-Petey

**USSKittyHawk** · 12-23-2005, 08:48 AM

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But two league sources said that Garden owner James Dolan wants Knicks brass to be more "fiscally responsible." Dolan does not want to add much more to his already league-high payroll for this non-playoff team unless the acquisitions are difference-makers.

Rose has an extra year left on his contract, so it would cost Dolan $34 million extra in salary and luxury tax. While Rose, 32, can still score, scouts say he's one of the league's worst defenders. One Knick decision-maker told The Post in November that it would be "crazy" to take Rose as is. A league official said the Knicks were still seeking more assets, including a first-round pick.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/59339.htm

If we can get that pick that would be great! Especially an unprotected 1st rounder, that would ease the pain of giving up our own unprotected pick to the Bulls.

**shookem** · 12-23-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitty

http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/59339.htm

If we can get that pick that would be great! Especially an unprotected 1st rounder, that would ease the pain of giving up our own unprotected pick to the Bulls.

Remember Toronto is in rebuilding mode and it is unlikely they'd give up their top pick.

It would more likely be Denver's pick or our second rounder.

**USSKittyHawk** · 12-23-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shookem

Remember Toronto is in rebuilding mode and it is unlikely they'd give up their top pick.

It would more likely be Denver's pick or our second rounder.

Hey I'm not going to be unhappy just as long as it's a 1st rounder. Regardless if it's Denver's pick or not. Like I said, we have no first rounders, so if we can get one that would be much appreciated. If it is in fact Denver's pick, then your Denver thread will more than likely be moved over here.

**shookem** · 12-23-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitty

Hey I'm not going to be unhappy just as long as it's a 1st rounder. Regardless if it's Denver's pick or not. Like I said, we have no first rounders, so if we can get one that would be much appreciated. If it is in fact Denver's pick, then your Denver thread will more than likely be moved over here.

yeah, it does seem likely if there is a trade that a pick would be involved. Everyone knows the Raps are really young and adding another three guys (plus the Roko and Uros in Europe) is not in the teams best interest.

A quater way through the season, was the Curry trade worth it? Would it be worth it without the pick? And is the pick the Chi has protected in any way? I know the Zeke wasn't high on this year's draft class and probably thought the Knicks would be better, but was this really a good move...?

alphadog · 12-23-2005, 10:10 AM

that is Denver's pick, it came from NJ. With the year they are having, it could be a decent pick. Unprotected, the trade is a no-brainer for us. It has to be top 15 or better. As far as the Raps rebuilding, they have more pieces needed than just what that pick would be.

**shookem** · 12-23-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by alphadog

that is Denver's pick, it came from NJ. With the year they are having, it could be a decent pick. Unprotected, the trade is a no-brainer for us. It has to be top 15 or better. As far as the Raps rebuilding, they have more pieces needed than just what that pick would be.

True!

but the pick can't be completely unprotected, Denver has top 5 protection on it so that the most the Raps could offer.

**USSKittyHawk** · 12-23-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shookem

yeah, it does seem likely if there is a trade that a pick would be involved. Everyone knows the Raps are really young and adding another three guys (plus the Roko and Uros in Europe) is not in the teams best interest.

A quater way through the season, was the Curry trade worth it? Would it be worth it without the pick? And is the pick the Chi has protected in any way? I know the Zeke wasn't high on this year's draft class and probably thought the Knicks would be better, but was this really a good move...?

I think the Curry trade was worth it, even though he isn't contributing like we expected right due to injury and his lack of defense and rebounding. The main thing is we have a young center, who with a little work will be able to improve. As for the draft pick we gave to the Bulls, it's unprotected which means they hope we fail miseribly which as of right now we are. I'm not too concerned about the Bulls getting our pick, because if the kid they draft becomes a stud he won't be in a Bulls uni for long anyway due to their history of letting great talent leave there building. We are also in rebuilding mode just like you guys, but the thing that I admire about your GM is he "correct me if I'm wrong" admits he is in rebuilding mode, unlike Zeke who tries to plaster the holes in this team and denies up until recently that we are in fact rebuilding, just so it dosen't make him look bad or have an impact on ticket sales.

**USSKittyHawk** · 12-23-2005, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shookem

True!

but the pick can't be completely unprotected, Denver has top 5 protection on it so that the most the Raps could offer.

With Zeke's sucess at drafting folks, it can work out well for us either way. He has done well in the draft and I expect that to continue, I just wish that he had the same skills when it comes to making trades and signing free agents.

**shookem** · 12-23-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitty

I think the Curry trade was worth it, even though he isn't contributing like we expected right due to injury and his lack of defense and rebounding. The main thing is we have a young center, who with a little work will be able to improve. As for the draft pick we gave to the Bulls, it's unprotected which means they hope we fail miseribly which as of right now we are. I'm not too concerned about the Bulls getting our pick, because if the kid they draft becomes a stud he won't be in a Bulls uni for long anyway due to their history of letting great talent leave there building. We are also in rebuilding mode just like you guys, but the thing that I admire about your GM is he "correct me if I'm wrong" admits he is in rebuilding mode, unlike Zeke who tries to plaster the holes in this team and denies up until recently that we are in fact rebuilding, just so it dosen't make him look bad or have an impact on ticket sales.

Oh yeah, Rob has no choice but to admit this is a rebuilding year, if he didn't he'd be crazy.

Plus, Zeke doens't strike me as a guy who likes to be in the hot seat. From our experience with him, he wanted everyone to like him, something that is impossible for a GM.

Rebuilding... ouch. I agree that the Curry trade wasn't the worst thing in the world, although I really like Mike Sweetney. The biggest mistake I think was the James signing.

Thank gawd we're in the atlantic, where everyone sucks!

**shookem** · 12-23-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitty

With Zeke's sucess at drafting folks, it can work out well for us either way. He has done well in the draft and I expect that to continue, I just wish that he had the same skills when it comes to making trades and signing free agents.

which is strange cause I've always figured him to be more of a sign and trade type of guy.

Did he draft Ariza? What about Sweetney?

Frye was a good pick, but totally a no-brainer, he was absolutly the BPA.

Gotta give him props for Nate though.

85 lakers · 12-23-2005, 10:46 AM

Unless Melo goes down, the Nuggets are making the playoffs. So that means you're not getting a lottery pick here. Probably something in the 15-20 range.

Is that worth a mediocre pick to endure one more year of salary cap hell? I don't think so.

I can't believe people want to see Marbury and Rose on the floor at the same time. That is a disaster waiting to happen. And this team needs DEFENSE, not offense.

Between Curry, Frye, Marbury, Crawford, etc ... the offensive firepower is there. It's the defense that is lacking.

**shookem** · 12-23-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 85 lakers

Unless Melo goes down, the Nuggets are making the playoffs. So that means you're not getting a lottery pick here. Probably something in the 15-20 range.

I dunno, I think it has more to do with what the Timberwolves do this season. If they win the division it might be really hard for the Nuggs to get in. As of today the are 9th in the West.

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