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Old 12-17-2006, 05:08 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Load of crap, Kconn

He didn't touch his head. He pulled him down from around his head and shoulders. Pounded him? Your idea of pounding is different than mine. I can survive yours...not sure if you would survive mine. Big deal, he wasn't hurt...except his pride. Collins had nothing more than some yapping coming....maybe a push. Nate and Melo were the worst culprits and they will be punished accordingly. I doubt that IT ORDERED anything. However, he may have knbown a foul was coming and gave a heads up to melo. Anyone thinks this doesn't happen every day is nuts.

I also agree completely with Chosen. Man, helluva day for me. I actually agreed with 2 other posters. Whats next? Agreeing with the catwoman? Gives me shivers.

BTW, Kitty, I remember back when Hubie was coaching the Knicks and instituted a "no layup" rule. A series against the Celts was brutal. Actually made me cringe on every layup attempt. Worse than Collins' foul on every play. For real.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:18 PM   #62 (permalink)
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ok around his head- still dirty and illegal

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Pounded him? Your idea of pounding is different than mine. I can survive yours...not sure if you would survive mine.
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He didn't touch his head. He pulled him down from around his head and shoulders. Pounded him? Your idea of pounding is different than mine. I can survive yours...not sure if you would survive mine. Big deal, he wasn't hurt...except his pride. Collins had nothing more than some yapping coming....maybe a push. Nate and Melo were the worst culprits and they will be punished accordingly. I doubt that IT ORDERED anything. However, he may have knbown a foul was coming and gave a heads up to melo. Anyone thinks this doesn't happen every day is nuts.

I also agree completely with Chosen. Man, helluva day for me. I actually agreed with 2 other posters. Whats next? Agreeing with the catwoman? Gives me shivers.

BTW, Kitty, I remember back when Hubie was coaching the Knicks and instituted a "no layup" rule. A series against the Celts was brutal. Actually made me cringe on every layup attempt. Worse than Collins' foul on every play. For real.
I agree.

And alpha, still feel nate should be our starter?
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Re: Knicks and Nuggets In A Brawl That Resulted In 10 Ejections

I can't believe I'm only posting about this now. I tried to get on last night but there most have been too many people on!

anyways, mad loss of respect for Carmelo, not only does he sucker punch mardy, but then he runs away like a pansy.

nate, well, it don't surprise me unfortunately, he's an idiot and really needs to grow up quick or get traded - although I admit I was impressed when he judo-tossed smith when he charged after him.

jeffries - props. Brandon Tierney said it best on the ESPN radio today - as a knick fan you gotta love that he was sticking up for his teammate, but ya gotta be grateful that he didn't get his hands on Melo cause that woulda been bad news.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:30 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Note: I seen Jamal Crawford at the Paul Mooney show at Caroline's later that night, after the fight.
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Re: Knicks and Nuggets In A Brawl That Resulted In 10 Ejections

Why I don't understand this level of insult felt by the Knicks may stem from the fact that I believe that the final score should reflect how well/poorly your team played. If you are up by 25 entering the 4th, you should win by no less than 30! It's not running up the score, but moreso a statement saying that, "You either play all in or get embarassed!"
When any of you play 2k7 or Live 07, do you run up the score? Of COURSE! Win by 10, you're unhappy, but win by 50 is a decent margin of victory. I am tired of the teams going through the motions at the end of the game or the subs screwing up the final score! It's not just about wins, but momentum. The Nuggs needed that momentum of a big win.
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:02 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Re: Knicks and Nuggets In A Brawl That Resulted In 10 Ejections

No, when you're up by 25 you rest your main guys to avoid injury. Teams usually only leave their star players in if they are near a triple double or another milestone, and if a coach leaves his starters in he is well aware of that fact, and he is trying to send some sort of message.
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This is a professional sport

not a video toy game. There is a certain amount of professionalism required. Running up the score is a classless act and the fact that the Nuggets were up 20 with a minute to go already ensured their "big win". Having your starters in the game, and showboating is stupid from every vantage point. Karl placed the charges, JR lit the fuse, and the rest of the guys set it off. The whole thing could have been avoided but Karl wanted to rub ITs nose in it. Well, I hope he's happy. Anyone that thinks hard fouls are not readily delivered in the NBA have only to listen to announcers. I can't tell you how many times I have heard them reccommend a hard foul to let the players know nothing is free. Not to injure, but to make a point. Part of the game, just like a hard smack on a WR by a safety after he MISSES a ball. Letting them know you are close by. Lots of fault on this one but Nate and Melo are the worst. Karl should not get a free pass, either.


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Who cares if the starters are on the floor or not? If you notice, Nene, Linas Kleiza, and Yakhouba Diawara were waiting at the scorers' table waiting for the next whistle.

There's NO rule that says you have to take your starters out. That should nto be an issue here.

If Zeke has an issue with getting blown out on his own floor, then he should learn how to coach more effectively.

Melo, JR, Nate, and JJ should all be out for awhile...I jsut hope that Zeke gets his, too.
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Tru.....Nope. The guy has million dollar potential and a 10 cent head.
Hahaha, yeah your right. But in all seriousness its actually really a shame. He was one of the leaders in 3-pt shooting % last year, and it was no accident. He is one of the few on this team that can hit a three on such a high percentage. All the gifts this young man has and hes going to waste it all cause he cant grow up and cant grow a brain.

Anyway back to the topic. Nate should have not started the whole thing, Carl should not have left his starters in, and melo is a punk. End of story lol.
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Said Nate Robinson: "It's like a slap in the face, saying we're going to embarrass you like that."

Boy, thank goodness the NBA has a coach and a player willing to stand up for sportsmanship like these two.

We know a respectful sort such as Robinson would never, ever show up an opponent by, say, bounce-passing a ball off the backboard to himself so he could dunk it. And we know if, say, such a thing happened on his watch, say Nov. 29 in Cleveland, Thomas would never, ever leave Robinson in the game like it was completely acceptable.

Of course not. Not these virtuous souls.

"If we're up 20 points, we're not going to play Stephon (Marbury) and Eddy (Curry)," Robinson said.

Of course not, because if the Knicks were up 20, Robinson would just honor his fallen opponent. Like when he botched that ESPY-campaign self-alley-oop and claimed humbly, "I won't be trying it again unless we're up by 20."

The good news is the Knicks aren't getting up 20 on anyone anytime soon.

little nate cares when his team is getting embarassed, but he cant wait for the chance to embarass another team himself. he wants respect from opponents, yet treats them with none. wetzel really hit the nail on the head with this guy.
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Darth....

You don't know your butt from a bagel. Kermit Washington was one of the nicest guys around. He was a true gentleman who was in the middle of a fight and thought he was being blind-sided. He swung at a rushing shape and the punch heard round the world was born. He was absolutely the anti-thug. BTW, Collins foul was a flagrant 2 and I have seen much worse. I'm not justifying it but I am pretty sure it wasn't meant to harm only to forcefully stop the play. I think if you check the previous flagrants, they were flagrant 1's, which is kind of like swearing at your neighbor. In other words, no big deal.

You might want to read up on your NBA history. Thee will be a test.
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