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Old 05-24-2007, 05:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Twist it any way you want....

The stats clearly prove that Curry has been horrible on the boards...even by your twisted logic. He had one year that even you can try to make a case for. All in all, he is a horrible rebounder and guys that are typically good at it destroy him on the boards. If you think otherwise, you're just dreaming. Find any people that remotely think the same thing....from fans to scouts....to coaches. He is a bad rebounder. Boxing out? What a joke. The man almost never goes for a rebound or a block because he can't play the game without thinking about what to do. It's too fast.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Twist it any way you want....

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The stats clearly prove that Curry has been horrible on the boards...even by your twisted logic. He had one year that even you can try to make a case for. All in all, he is a horrible rebounder and guys that are typically good at it destroy him on the boards. If you think otherwise, you're just dreaming. Find any people that remotely think the same thing....from fans to scouts....to coaches. He is a bad rebounder. Boxing out? What a joke. The man almost never goes for a rebound or a block because he can't play the game without thinking about what to do. It's too fast.
I find it interesting that you seemed to favor 82games.com and their "twisted facts" in most of your arguements against Curry but when submitted fats that favor Curry, it's nothing more than "twisted logic."

I think DaGrinch made an excellent point on something I was going to touch on. Due to the situation the Knicks are in, where we are a top 5 rebounding team, we don't necessarily need Curry to rebound. All we need him to do is just box out and keep the opposing teams big man off the boards. As long as he does that, we'll be fine, so I don't believe Curry has to be a 9rpg-10rpg center.

Next year, I believe he'll average about 24ppg on 55% shooting along with 7rpg-8rpg and maybe 1apg-2apg.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:37 AM   #18 (permalink)
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You guys both missed the point.

Stats are fine...as long as you qualify them. He claimed Curry out rebounded virtual every man he was matched against. I said he was nuts because I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT BOXSCORES and saw where he got out rebounded lots of times. I posted that. That is a FACT. Grinch proceeded to cite an AVERAGE of all the opposing centers vs. Curry. This shows what? I can you.....NOTHING. Its like saying the pond is 12 feet in average depth but in reality, it has one deep spot in the center...the rest is 6 inches deep. If you want to know how deep it is any spot....check that spot. Bottom line is that his statement was patently wrong.

As far as Curry boxing out? I don't see what you astute observers do. He is not a spontaneous player and has trouble with EVERYTHING that requires just reaction. He has to think too much. Boxing out is a reaction. He is poor at it. I watched some games, specifically targeting Curry's boxing out after this all started last season. He actively boxes out rarely.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: You guys both missed the point.

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Stats are fine...as long as you qualify them. He claimed Curry out rebounded virtual every man he was matched against. I said he was nuts because I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT BOXSCORES and saw where he got out rebounded lots of times. I posted that. That is a FACT. Grinch proceeded to cite an AVERAGE of all the opposing centers vs. Curry. This shows what? I can you.....NOTHING. Its like saying the pond is 12 feet in average depth but in reality, it has one deep spot in the center...the rest is 6 inches deep. If you want to know how deep it is any spot....check that spot. Bottom line is that his statement was patently wrong.

As far as Curry boxing out? I don't see what you astute observers do. He is not a spontaneous player and has trouble with EVERYTHING that requires just reaction. He has to think too much. Boxing out is a reaction. He is poor at it. I watched some games, specifically targeting Curry's boxing out after this all started last season. He actively boxes out rarely.
its funny how you can tell a story and seem so convinced of its correctness when you omit some easily recognizable facts.

curry plays 26 mintes a game yet you think by looking at a boxscore of a game 48 minutes long that you can tell how the boards were gathered and by whom while curry was in the game.

you like to cite what i said but i never said he outrebounded them for the entire game , just while he was in it....and that he did , its not hard to have more boards than a guy when you play 10 more minutes and some of those minutes are against the incredibly bad rebounding mo taylor (9.3 reb. vs 13 against for opposing centers that year) I beleive quite a big point of contention among knicks fans that season Mo taylor getting alot of backup center minutes that could have gone to frye.

these are the fun facts you like to leave out when making your point or whatever , you dont want to tell the whole story .

last season was a pretty big regression for curry on the boards and the #'s bear that out clearly , and the coaching staff pretty much gave him a pass on it with a "wait til' next year" sentiment , so I will to and expect better things from his all around game next season starting but not ending with his boardwork , he has shown he can do it .

if you want to continue to say you never saw a difference thats your opinion , and we will just disagree...but basically most people who were really paying attention knew what was going on all that season.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
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20, 10.

He needs to improve on the rebounding part and also learn to stay out of foul trouble.
I would do the moonwalk butt *** naked in the middle of Times Square if Eddie Curry ever averages 20 and 10. No way he will improve his stats in terms of rebounding. I do see his ppg go up slightly from 20, but his rebounding with be his demise. His lack of defense is also up there, he is lazy and does not rotate or attempts to block shots. I don't dislike Eddie, nor do I like him...he is somewhere in between with me though. I hope I'm wrong but I think this is what you going to get from him to this day forward.
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