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Old 06-19-2007, 09:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OT: Garnett Officially On The Block?

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Over the weekend, several Eastern Conference general managers told ESPN.com's Chad Ford that Minnesota Timberwolves GM Kevin McHale is finally listening to trade offers for Wolves superstar Kevin Garnett.

For a couple of years, the Bulls have seemed to be a natural destination for the former Chicago high school star. Bulls GM John Paxson has stockpiled a lot of young talent that could potentially go to Minnesota in a trade.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Garnett Officially On The Block?

well the good news is if chicago is more interested in getting garnett we'll have a better shot at kobe
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I hope Kobe goes to Chicago

unless we get to keep our young guys...or most of them. If we lose Frye and Lee, we are cooked at PF. We would then need a real stud rebounder. How would we get one? No real depth at guard. No quality back up at center. The team would be fragile. If Kobe were to go down, we would be nothing..a lotto team.
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Re: I hope Kobe goes to Chicago

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unless we get to keep our young guys...or most of them. If we lose Frye and Lee, we are cooked at PF. We would then need a real stud rebounder. How would we get one? No real depth at guard. No quality back up at center. The team would be fragile. If Kobe were to go down, we would be nothing..a team.
I don't think it would be as bad as you make it out to be. For one thing, I think the deal would be something like Marbury, Frye, Lee and picks for Kobe and maybe a guy like Cook. The Lakers won't want a lot of players, especially if they are overpaid like Crawford and Richardson.

You would still be left with Francis, Crawford, Collins, and Robinson to pair with Kobe in the backcourt. That's plenty. QRich, Jeffries and Balkman could man the 3. As you state, the 4 spot and backup 5 would be a concern. But whose to say they can't fill that with the MLE or another trade?
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We wouold be guard heavy

and big man poor. You simply cannot find stud rebounders for the MLE and the only guy left to trade would be Crawford...who is not going to bring a good big man. Moot, since Marbury will not be in the trade. Francis, maybe...same salary range, age, and skill set. If he has to retire die to injury, the Lakers get to wipe his contract off the books after one year. Frye and Lee both is a bad deal. I really don't want to lose those guys. I think both will be starters in this league a long time. People act like Kobe is superman, but the fact is, he is a HUGE Prima donna who has not won anything without Shaq in his prime. He is wildly entertaining and talented but he will need a good team around him. The most dominating player in the last 15 years had to have Kobe and a solid cast to win..and they may not have done it if they had to face these current teams (Spurs in particular). Kobe is probably as good as ever but Curry is no Shaq. So basically, you have no rebounder, no shot blocker, no post passing, and you would expect to compete for a title with what you can "dig up" to add? If we can't keep a lot of our youth by adding vets or bringing in a 3rd team, I'd bag it and call McHale. KG would be much better suited to the Knicks.
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Re: OT: Garnett Officially On The Block?

Rebounding can be replaced. Fortson, Evans, Kenny Thomas, etc.. all guys who could be had and guys who can rebound the ball.

Speaking of Evans and the Nugz, maybe Kenyon Martin?
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Garnett Officially On The Block?

With Garnett at the 4 and Curry at the 5, why are you worried about the spots? That's a brutal inside-out pairing.
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Re: I hope Kobe goes to Chicago

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unless we get to keep our young guys...or most of them. If we lose Frye and Lee, we are cooked at PF. We would then need a real stud rebounder. How would we get one? No real depth at guard. No quality back up at center. The team would be fragile. If Kobe were to go down, we would be nothing..a lotto team.
We could sign a forward to rebound the ball. Once again, you don't need much next to Kobe and Curry is a hell of a start, especially in the East. Kobe getting injuried is about the same risk as any other star on any other team in the league. Where would the Spurs be without Duncan? A lottery team. I don't know why that is such a big issue for you when Bryant has never missed a significant amount of time to injury and as if we're not a lottery team already.
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and big man poor. You simply cannot find stud rebounders for the MLE and the only guy left to trade would be Crawford...who is not going to bring a good big man. Moot, since Marbury will not be in the trade. Francis, maybe...same salary range, age, and skill set. If he has to retire die to injury, the Lakers get to wipe his contract off the books after one year. Frye and Lee both is a bad deal. I really don't want to lose those guys. I think both will be starters in this league a long time. People act like Kobe is superman, but the fact is, he is a HUGE Prima donna who has not won anything without Shaq in his prime. He is wildly entertaining and talented but he will need a good team around him. The most dominating player in the last 15 years had to have Kobe and a solid cast to win..and they may not have done it if they had to face these current teams (Spurs in particular). Kobe is probably as good as ever but Curry is no Shaq. So basically, you have no rebounder, no shot blocker, no post passing, and you would expect to compete for a title with what you can "dig up" to add? If we can't keep a lot of our youth by adding vets or bringing in a 3rd team, I'd bag it and call McHale. KG would be much better suited to the Knicks.
The Nuggets signed Reggie Evans to the MLE as was Haslem basically with the Heat. You can find most of whatever you need at that price but you'd just have to understand your not getting a star for that price most likely. Like the previous poster pointed out, we'd be left with players that could be used as assets. A guy like Crawford, who has proven to be one of the better 6th man options in the league, could bring back a guy like Rasheed Wallace who is aging but still solid.

Kobe may have never won anything without Shaq but the same can be said about the league's golden boy, Dwayne Wade. I got to strongly disagree about Garnett being a better fit with the Knicks considering he has had more to work with than Kobe but has not shown the same results.
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Lets just say I disagree

Kobe and Curry is a start. You make an assumption their games would mesh and that Curry will improve the holes in his game. I don't think Kobe needs Curry for him to be an effective scorer and Curry needs only a couple of outside threats to be effective.

If you think SA is a lotto team without Duncan, you are not paying attention. THAT is a patently ridiculous statement. Take Duncan off that team and they would win the Atlantic, no problem. They are a complete team. You can have your Curry and Kobe foundation (actually you can't because he will not be coming here) but I think it is foolhardy. You are still far too enamored of Curry's game.
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Re: OT: Garnett Officially On The Block?

I say, dont waste pieces on Garnett. Kobe will be much more rewarding, I think.
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Okay, oh wise kobewan

explain how we are better with Kobe over KG. A little detail please.
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explain how we are better with Kobe over KG. A little detail please.
Well....

Kobe = 3 rings
Garnett = First Round Playoff Exit.
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Dumb statement....

So by your brilliant logic, Horry is better than Kobe or KG or Shaq or AI or countless others. Right?