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**USSKittyHawk** · 07-03-2007, 09:45 AM

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Armed with two new trade pawns in the expiring contracts of Dan Dickau and Fred Jones, the advent of free agency and a new edict that character no longer matters, Isiah Thomas wants to swing another deal or two this month.
While free-agent Rashard Lewis is their pipe dream, on-the-block Ron Artest is more attainable. Thomas had stayed clear of his former player because of his list of violent transgressions that soured owner James Dolan. With the acquisitions of troubled Zach Randolph, the character issue is dead.

Artest, whose fallen out of favor in Sacramento, makes sense. Small forward is the hole in the lineup, and Artest would make the Knicks a solid perimeter defensive team that would cover up their shot-blocking woes. Jared Jeffries was such a disappointment that Quentin Richardson is slated to start there next season.

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I like Ron Artest, he is one of my favorite players, but hmmm I'm scared Queensbridge being so close to home may hurt him if he plays here. His family are the main culprits who are always looking for a hand out.

**Truknicksfan** · 07-03-2007, 10:22 AM

I have no porbelm with one eiffy character on the team,(Zach) but I dont know if we want to take on this crazy head case.

truth · 07-03-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Truknicksfan

I have no porbelm with one eiffy character on the team,(Zach) but I dont know if we want to take on this crazy head case.

I have no problem with the trade as long as we dont extend Artests contract.. We need to make roster room,and as far as I am concerned Jeffries and Nate just take PT from guys like Balkman,Collins and hopefully Chandler and Nichols..cant speak about Morris as I have never seen him play

**USSKittyHawk** · 07-04-2007, 09:19 AM

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We've established that there is very little chance of keeping Zach Randolph from filling up boxscores. The only question is, how is Isiah Thomas going to keep him from filling up the gossip columns and police blotters just as quickly?

There is a high-risk, high-reward solution available to the Knicks, one that will make everyone forget that Randolph has a rap sheet longer than his arm.

Trade for Ron Artest.

The teams competing with the Knicks in the East have gotten better this summer. The latest example was Orlando with word yesterday that prized free agent Rashard Lewis has decided to sign a maximum deal with the Magic rather than try to steer his way to the Knicks in a sign-and-trade.

Thomas clearly doesn't intend to stop making moves after trading for Randolph. What would be the point of taking on Randolph's four years and $61 million without making another move to complete the puzzle?

It would be a puzzle for all time if Artest returned to his hometown at age 27 with a truckload of baggage that rivals Randolph's. But a front line of Eddy Curry, Randolph and Artest would make the Knicks just as viable - and at least as interesting - as any team in the East. His three-point shooting, rebounding and ferocious defense are just what the Knicks need at the small forward spot.

Call it the thugification of the Knicks, if you want to. I say, why stop with Randolph? Why not go all the way and bring on Artest?

Knicks fans would embrace a team like that, the way they embraced Pat Riley's villainous Knicks - or better yet, the way they embraced Latrell Sprewell. Incidentally, Sprewell was damaged goods and a year older than Artest when the Knicks traded for him in 1999 and rode him to the NBA Finals.

Of course, you would embrace such a team only if it won. But as crazy as it sounds, a team anchored by Curry and infused with the talent and desperation of Randolph and Artest might find some scary ways to win. And it would give Thomas the replication of the Bad Boys he's always talking about creating.

Garden chairman James Dolan, who eventually ran Sprewell out of town, would have to be sold on Artest. But if Isiah sold Dolan on Randolph, he could make a decent case for Artest - if he wanted to.

That's the unknown. Word is Thomas wasn't crazy about Artest when he coached him briefly with the Pacers. They had only one public dustup, when Thomas suspended Artest for one game after Artest smashed a photo of himself that was displayed on the wall outside the locker room following a loss to Michael Jordan and the Wizards in 2003.

The two don't have much history beyond that, although Artest is said to greatly respect Thomas.

The book on Artest is that he's a decent guy who's made mistakes. He'll be available later this summer at a bargain price because of those mistakes. Sounds a lot like Randolph.

He's also like Randolph in this way: He fits the Knicks' available options because they're a parking garage filled with Hummers over the cap and in no position to get anyone but players who scare other teams.

The Kings are cleaning house, and the Knicks have at least explored the Artest possibility - including discussions about what kind of influence he would be on their young players. An opt-out in Artest's contract after next season presents some additional risk, but it's also another reason why the Knicks wouldn't have to give up much to get him.

Artest has wanted to play for the Knicks since he was growing up in Queensbridge, and still does. If my plan of addition by dysfunction worked, Artest almost certainly would want to re-up and stay home. If not, then all the Knicks will have done is taken a risk.

Artest and Randolph on the same team would be quite a concoction. It might fail, but it just might work. It would be spectacular either way.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printe...y-sports-print

HB · 07-04-2007, 09:22 AM

A team with Zach, Ron and Marbury. This should be interesting

**Krstic All Star** · 07-04-2007, 09:28 AM

Aside from the personal and chemistry issues, getting Artest would adversely affect the three hundred other small forwards on the Knicks' roster. Unless Isiah is going for a win the Finals now approach, that's a bad idea.

Kiyaman · 07-04-2007, 09:35 AM

If Isiah Thomas was to get Ron Artest this offseason to go along with Curry and Zack you cant give Isiah any bad cracks about not being Creative.

Truth is ....
Truth is the Knicks draft night says they still have to pull off another Blockbuster trade before this offseason is over to compliment the "NO-Defense & NO-Passing abilty" in both Eddy Curry & Zack Randolph in their "STARTING" frontcourt. Or do the Knicks have the right SF-player that will compliment both Curry & Zack for 25 MPG, plus Start each game with them?
Who will the Knicks Start at the SF position?
A) Q.Richardson (sore back)?
B) Jefferies (weak defense & no rebounds)?
C) Lee (whom earned Startership on this team)?
D) Balkman (who can give the 6th Man award a run for the money)?
E) Or do the Knicks go after Ron Artest and give up some more young-players?

The Knicks will show some great promise in 6.6 PG-Collins off the bench next season for 18 to 20 MPG backing up Marbury.
And the Knicks is going to need all of his 6.6 Fram on defense for oponents Raye Allen, Carter, Pierce, Kidd, and T.J. Ford in the Atlantic Division alone.
Nate only have to transfer his Nate/Crawford backcourt skillz into a Nate/Collins Backcourt this way his quick permeter shooting can be a Knick threat.
So another trade this offseason, which is likely to happen knowing Isiah, it will involve one of the Knicks best young players (Lee, Balkman, Collins, or Nate).

**B_&_B** · 07-04-2007, 09:37 AM

I wouldnt be surprised if I am wrong, but dont the Knicks have to wait 60 days before they can trade Dickau and Jones?

**USSKittyHawk** · 07-04-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiyaman

If Isiah Thomas was to get Ron Artest this offseason to go along with Curry and Zack you cant give Isiah any bad cracks about not being Creative.

Truth is ....
Truth is the Knicks draft night says they still have to pull off another Blockbuster trade before this offseason is over to compliment the "NO-Defense & NO-Passing abilty" in both Eddy Curry & Zack Randolph in their "STARTING" frontcourt. Or do the Knicks have the right SF-player that will compliment both Curry & Zack for 25 MPG, plus Start each game with them?
Who will the Knicks Start at the SF position?
A) Q.Richardson (sore back)?
B) Jefferies (weak defense & no rebounds)?
C) Lee (whom earned Startership on this team)?
D) Balkman (who can give the 6th Man award a run for the money)?
E) Or do the Knicks go after Ron Artest and give up some more young-players?

The Knicks will show some great promise in 6.6 PG-Collins off the bench next season for 18 to 20 MPG backing up Marbury.
And the Knicks is going to need all of his 6.6 Fram on defense for oponents Raye Allen, Carter, Pierce, Kidd, and T.J. Ford in the Atlantic Division alone.
Nate only have to transfer his Nate/Crawford backcourt skillz into a Nate/Collins Backcourt this way his quick permeter shooting can be a Knick threat.
So another trade this offseason, which is likely to happen knowing Isiah, it will involve one of the Knicks best young players (Lee, Balkman, Collins, or Nate).

Sorry to say Kiyaman if one of these guys have to go, I hope it's Nate Robinson. His side show act will do wonders for another team, just not ours.

**Truknicksfan** · 07-04-2007, 10:22 AM

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I wouldnt be surprised if I am wrong, but dont the Knicks have to wait 60 days before they can trade Dickau and Jones?

I believe that is correct.

KVIP112 · 07-04-2007, 10:36 AM

Rumor is the Knicks need to trade Lee in the deal to get Artest and if that is all they want I say go ahead and SAY NO!

**ChadWick** · 07-04-2007, 01:38 PM

I think Artest would be a great fit for the Knicks, they need a guy that can score at the 3, and they need a solid defender, both which Artest would bring.

Now think of there starting lineup
C: E.Curry
PF: Z.Randolph
SF: R.Artest
SG: J.Crawford
PG: S.Marbury

Now that's a lineup I think could really win some games, and it would also make me wanna watch the Knicks

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