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bcoleman123 · 07-13-2007, 12:16 PM

I really hope he makes the team..he can be a solid role player off the bench, he can shoot, play defense. He would be a good fit.

**Truknicksfan** · 07-13-2007, 12:34 PM

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Nichols is the best player on the team not named Balkman. He's gotten better every game. For those that like stats, he is at 50% from 3 and around 55% all around. He makes few mistakes, is unselfish, and plays very solid defense.

I agree I think Nichols is a gem that was found by zeke. Theres no question in my mind he should get on the team and get some playing time.

Samael · 07-13-2007, 12:55 PM

I think we can all agree that Nichols was definitely a steal at the 53rd pick probaly the best steal of the 2nd round simply because he was picked so low.

I was watching the reruns of the SL games a few things I noticed on Nichols game is that though he has incredible range and accuracy on his shot, it's not a quick release. One of the reasons why defenders can still catch up to him on those semi open shots and also the reason why he resorts to the pump fake and then fades away to get it off, I think it's smart that he plays to his strengths but he needs to develope a quicker release on that shot.

He plays good defense which made him stood out for me at first I thought great another Kyle Korver but not at all, he plays good D and really makes the effort. That said he's not a good rebounder which is why he's better off at the SG position and at 6'8 that sounds pretty damn good but not really because he doesn't have good handles and his speed is just average which is why he doesn't seem to penetrate that much. He's not that fast to get sizable seperation from his defender, he's better at finishing off breaks where he doesn't need to put the ball on the ground that much.

But what impressed me the most was how well he moves off the ball, he seems to have a good grasp on where to place himself in certain situtations if only Nate had half of his brain working he would've seen how often Nichols was open in these games. I hope when the regular season starts that he's on the roster and that the PGs actually pass to him because he can really shoot.

alphaorange · 07-13-2007, 02:24 PM

While his release will never be confused with Dell Curry's, it is better than average. He is also pretty fast which is why he gets out on the break so much. You are right about his handle needing work but wrong about his board work. He is playing guard and as such has a responsibility to get back on defense. Its also is tough to get offensive boards when you are playing deep most of the time. He had double doubles at the 'cuse and averaged around 4-5 boards playing in a zone. He is a very real nba player.

CocaineisaHelluvaDrug · 07-22-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ehmunro

So that he can eat it?

LOLOLOLOL

repped

CocaineisaHelluvaDrug · 07-22-2007, 10:05 AM

he fell to 53 because he has bad footwork, and is very inconsistent,also he could`nt guard a poster of the guy he`s sposed to be checking

That said i hope it works out for him with the knicks but i fear he`s destined for europe

**Da Grinch** · 07-22-2007, 10:12 AM

I've come to the belief that the knicks always intended on packaging Jones and dickau in mid aug. when its possible to do with a young guy to clear up roster space.

I think the knicks are just letting this stuff simmer to not lower their bargaining position. but even if they didn't all nichols has to do is not go anywhere they will be forced to offer him a QO and he can then accept it or not...if he accepts it he is a knick ...if not he can go to europe.

sometimes it works out very well for the player , chris duhon made the bulls give him an offer or lose his rights right before his rook season and got a 3 yr. 10 mil. deal after his rookie season .

i dont think nichols is one of the guys who should worry about being cut.

alphaorange · 07-22-2007, 01:16 PM

If the Knicks tender a qualifying offer, they hold his rights until a year from the draft in which he was picked. Nichols has no power at all.

And to Starbury above: you have absolutely no clue about Nichols. Why don't you admit it? The guy is a very solid defender, even IT said he was surprised. Why don't you explain in technical terms the problem with his footwork? Enlighten us all.....

**Da Grinch** · 07-22-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaorange

If the Knicks tender a qualifying offer, they hold his rights until a year from the draft in which he was picked. Nichols has no power at all.

And to Starbury above: you have absolutely no clue about Nichols. Why don't you admit it? The guy is a very solid defender, even IT said he was surprised. Why don't you explain in technical terms the problem with his footwork? Enlighten us all.....

no alpha , if nichols accepts the QO he is a knick , or they have to set him free.

not rocket science there. it puts the knicks in a position to lose their asset and makes Thomas looks very bad because he gave away next year's #2 for him.

alphaorange · 07-22-2007, 05:46 PM

From the CBA:

(a) A Team that drafts a player shall, during the period from the date of such NBA Draft (hereinafter, the “Initial Draft”) to the date of the next Draft (hereinafter, the “Subsequent Draft”), be the only Team with which such player may negotiate or sign a Player Contract, provided that, on or before the July 15 immediately following the Initial Draft (for a First Round Pick), or in the two (2) weeks before the September 5 immediately following the Initial Draft (for a Second Round Pick), such Team has made a Required Tender to such player. If a Team has made a Required Tender to such a player and the player has not signed a Player Contract within the period between the Initial Draft and the Subsequent Draft, the Team that drafted the player shall lose its exclusive right to negotiate with the player and the player will then be eligible for selection in the Subsequent Draft.

Whether or not the Knicks made a qualifying offer is unknown but I would have to assume that IT would have at least done that to protect his investment. It does not require Nichols to sign it.

Jizzy · 07-22-2007, 06:01 PM

Any chance Fred Jones gets bought out?

**Da Grinch** · 07-22-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaorange

From the CBA:

(a) A Team that drafts a player shall, during the period from the date of such NBA Draft (hereinafter, the “Initial Draft”) to the date of the next Draft (hereinafter, the “Subsequent Draft”), be the only Team with which such player may negotiate or sign a Player Contract, provided that, on or before the July 15 immediately following the Initial Draft (for a First Round Pick), or in the two (2) weeks before the September 5 immediately following the Initial Draft (for a Second Round Pick), such Team has made a Required Tender to such player. If a Team has made a Required Tender to such a player and the player has not signed a Player Contract within the period between the Initial Draft and the Subsequent Draft, the Team that drafted the player shall lose its exclusive right to negotiate with the player and the player will then be eligible for selection in the Subsequent Draft.

Whether or not the Knicks made a qualifying offer is unknown but I would have to assume that IT would have at least done that to protect his investment. It does not require Nichols to sign it.

you don't understand , if the knicks make a qualifying offer and nichols accepts it then the only way nichols is not a knick is if they then cut him....in which case they lose his rights.

usually what happens is the team in question takes it upon themselves to offer a qualifying offer and then helps the player find a much better paying opportunity overseas so every1 wins .

but if nichols doesn't want to go he can force the issue and make the knicks take him or cut him.

you have a link but you aren't really paying attention to how things are done.

Kiyaman · 07-22-2007, 09:26 PM

Before Zeke does anything else this offseason he need to look at the future Neucleus he put together in PG-Nate, PG-Collins, SG-Nichols, SF-Chandler, SF-Balkman, PF-Lee, and C/F-Morris. The thought of holding on to all 7 of these players for the next 2 to 3 season together could pay off Big time under the same coach (We had 5 coaches in 4 seasons under Zeke). They all are great contributors on both sides of the court, so being a superb Role-Player is easy for each of these players.

Demetris Nichols performance is a shoe-in as SG-Crawford backup, whether playing with the majority of Starters or the majority of Bench players his style of talent fits in well.

I dont see a future in Dickau or Fred Jones on this team or in any Knick rotation. I'm sure if Zeke keep them around for the Preseason games they will play well, but there is no place on this team for them.

C-Rave · 07-22-2007, 09:26 PM

Nichols is what the Knicks need. He's big enough at 6'8, can shoot off of the dribble and is athletic. Dan Dickau should get cut seeing that the Knicks don't need another point guard. Please I beg for Thomas to keep Nichols.

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