alphaorange

For Jefferson, Green, Telfair, Ratliff, and at least one draft pick. That's a deal the Knicks could have matched easily. Very disappointing. The Celts will be very tough.

bmac

No they couldn't. Minnesota is rebuilding so they want young players, picks and expiring contracts. David Lee is the only guy they might have liked. Everyone else is either garbage or ridiculously overpaid.

Kiyaman

It look like G.M. Mchale is securing a job with his old teammate G.M. Ainge, to make Boston Celtics back into the Super Team. So if this KG trade goes through look for G.M. Larry Bird to add another super missing piece to the Boston Celtics (dinasty).

EwingStarksOakley94

I agree, there's really nothing of equal value in the league outside of a handful of superstars to trade for Garnett. This was pretty close though as Boston gave up their entire youth movement. And apparently Ryan Gomes is also part of the deal plus two 1st round picks. If Minnesota was looking for youth I'm not sure many teams could have out bid the Celtics, including the Knicks.

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alphaorange

Green is nothing yet and maybe never be anything other than a JC type, if that. He's a high flyer, but come on, he's shown very little. Jefferson is pretty good but I'd bet Morris will be as good if not better. Telfair is a throw-in, and Ratliff is an expiring. David Lee is better than any of them and has shown it. Robinson is nearly as good as Telfair, JC is better than Green and is still young. Plus we have our first this year who could have gone and would also trump Green. There was definitely more the Knicks could have offered.

alphaorange

Outside of Marbury, who is ridiculously overpaid? BTW, NY doesn't have any "garbage" players. Most have a function and do it well for decent money. Explain, please.

bosiydid

Glad it was Boston and not us pulling this trade off. Now they have absolutely no bench or depth and in 2 or 3 years will right back where they were last season. They will have a very solid run for a 2 or 3 years but they better pray for a flash in the pan type of season. Going to love watching this train (Boston derail again). Imagine if one of them goes down, it will be ugly as they have zero depth and some fairly old superstars.

bmac

Jefferson is 1 year older than Morris and last season put up 16 points, 11 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks while shooting over 51%. Predicting Morris will be better after 5 career games is ridiculous.

No he hasn't. I love David Lee, but he's not half the post scorer Jefferson is. And the one thing he excels at, rebounding, Jefferson is equally as dominant. Plus Lee is actually 2 years older.

Crawford is already 27 and is an absolute chucker (career 40% shooter) with an inflated contract. Why would the Wolves need/want a guy like that when they're now clearly in rebuilding mode?

If you honestly believe this then u have no idea how the NBA works. The Wolves didn't want to trade Garnett for guys with large contracts (ie. basically everyone on the Knicks roster). They wanted a young stud (Jefferson), a large expiring deal for cap relief (Ratliff), draft picks (they get their own pick back from Boston plus possibly Boston's first next season), and a host of cheap young talent that may or may not pan out (Green, Telfair, Gomes).

The Knicks have no young potential superstars, no large expiring contracts, and the rest of their young talent (Robinson, Balkman, Collins, Morris) are average at best. The Knicks were never in the running cos they just don't have the pieces Minnesota wanted. Simple as that.

alphaorange

1) If you can't watch Morris and see his potential, you're the one who needs help. The guy is agile, graceful, has a GREAT touch and plays hard. Actual age is of no real relevance. What matters is time in the league. At the same stage, Morris shows as much or more.

2) Green isn't even in the same league as JC. At this point its a fact. 27 is a young veteran.

3) Lee is a better rebounder than almost anyone in the league, and Jefferson is NOT one of the few better. The fact that he isn't a scorer yet is irrelevant. Lee is a great passer and Jefferson isn't. Lee is great on the break...Jefferson isn't. Different skill set.

4) The Boston pick is not going to be a hot one.

5) The Knicks also had Frye, who is certainly the equivalent of a first rounder. He will blossom in the next 2 years.

Time will prove me right....Wolves got squat.

bmac

I don't care how in love with Morris u might be, he's only a year younger than Jefferson and miles behind him development wise. And he isn't likely to see significant minutes while he's stuck behind Eddy Curry, Zach Randolph and David Lee.

And i never said Green was better than Crawford, just much cheaper and 6 years younger.

Frye doesn't even play for the Knicks anymore, what does he have to do with anything here?

Since u think the Knicks could have made a better offer, what would it have been?

Kid Chocolate

woooooooooow, leave it to a Knicks fan.

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bosiydid

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bmac

Zach Randolph $13.3m
Eddy Curry $8.9m
Quentin Richardson $8.1m
Jamal Crawford $7.9m
Malik Rose $7.1m
Jerome James $5.8m
Jared Jeffries $5.6m

All of those guys are overpaid, as 'urwhatueati8god' pointed out.

If by function u mean 'ride the bench and contribute absolutely nothing' then yes, most of those guys do indeed have a function. Not only that they do it very well.

Kiyaman