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**USSKittyHawk** · 08-04-2007, 08:52 AM

Good find Grinch, the bolded part is also true. Now I'm trying to figure out who do we give up for him without losing our young core. Sac can still lose him for nothing because he will be a free agent soon, and because he is such a risk, they may not be too demanding and ask for Lee.

EwingStarksOakley94 · 08-04-2007, 10:01 AM

If they really want to get rid of him, Jefferies and Robinson would work salary wise, but I think that would be a significant downgrade for Sacramento.

**Da Grinch** · 08-04-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by USSKittyHawk

Good find Grinch, the bolded part is also true. Now I'm trying to figure out who do we give up for him without losing our young core. Sac can still lose him for nothing because he will be a free agent soon, and because he is such a risk, they may not be too demanding and ask for Lee.

as much i hate to admit it . i think balkman has to go, the knicks with artest and richardson would relegate him to 3rd team for the foreseeable future because he cant yet shoot....by the time he can shoot wilson chandler might be better than him or at least good enough to not really need balkman anymore, i seriously think in a couple of years he could be very good, to the point he could ready to start over balkman if he is still here.

balkman has such a special skillset(how many players can bring the amount of energy he brings to a team, play defense on their man , get steals and blocks,play smart, rebound, run the floor , and start and finish fast breaks...even play pg if need be...the last guy i can think of is scottie pippen who could also all of this and score 20 a game too.) i would hate to see him go and if zeke said its not worth it to him to deal balkman and that cost him artest , i could very easily live with it...but he is expendable as is lee , pretty much any1 on the team who isn't curry, zach, marbury and crawford is expendable because there is some1 on the team who brings what they bring or at least most of it....even jeffries is basically a poor man's balkman ....with a slightly better shooting touch.

the knicks could deal lee just easily but i think that because the nba is a business and lee is on of the few native born caucasians that can actually play , and in a crowd pleasing way at that he is safe , half of new york would scream bloody murder despite the fact that artest is a far superior player, Zeke isn't dumb the only guys he would deal lee for are garnett and kobe.

i would prefer jeffries to go , but i cant see the about to go full rebuilding mode kings taking on his deal after the season he just had, only young guys on their rookie deals and short term vets.

sometime you just got be logical about these things , if you want good players sometimes you have to give up good players for them.

23isback · 08-04-2007, 01:31 PM

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Why do Knicks fans want him so badd imagine Artest, Marbury, and Randolph on the same team the trouble that they would get in. It would also rub off on the younger guys like Curry and Robinson.

Ignorance at it's finest.

TheTruth34 · 08-04-2007, 01:51 PM

i heard artest for lee, and robinson, but that does not equal talent.

maybe richardson and robinson for artest, but im thinkin q-rich has a high salary?

EwingStarksOakley94 · 08-04-2007, 08:48 PM

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i heard artest for lee, and robinson, but that does not equal talent.

maybe richardson and robinson for artest, but im thinkin q-rich has a high salary?

I think qrich and artest have identical salaries

The True Essence · 08-04-2007, 11:29 PM

i think Knick fans are vastly overrating Balkman's abilities. Hes a hustle player and good defensive player, nothing more and nothing less. I cant believe some fans think he is a possible offensive threat outside of a breakaway dunk. His ball handling is mediocre and his jumper is just as bad. Fans are getting way over their heads.....Ron is 100 times the player.

I think bringing Ron home might tighten some of his loose screws. and seriously, losing Nate, Q, Jeffries or Balk doesnt dent us in ANY way. Ron fills any void lost by the often injured Q and whatever role jeffries played. he is 50 times the defender balkman is......and Nate is the odd man out at the point anyways.

this is a no brainer if it can happen. and sure give up a first round pick...our potential pick has almost no chance of being better then Artest anyway

The True Essence · 08-04-2007, 11:31 PM

The one guy I dont want to give up is Lee. He is a big part of the team. Those other guys are replaceable

Samael · 08-05-2007, 12:29 AM

We all know what Artest brings to the table defense/offense and everything else but think about this people.

Artest is on a contract year he will hog the ball in every single imaginable way to get his numbers up and get his big payday at the season's end. If the Knicks didn't have enough ballhogs already then brace yourselves for something fairly catastrophic.

The True Essence · 08-05-2007, 01:25 AM

I really don't think Ron needs to worry about getting a big pay day. Hes gonna get it regardless, hes a great talent. Most teams don't even want his offense, just his defense.....so him shooting a ton of shots probably won't land him any bigger contract anyway.

Besides, he wants to play in NY. If he comes to NY, they got his bird rights and will resign him no matter what

bmac · 08-05-2007, 01:34 AM

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i think Knick fans are vastly overrating Balkman's abilities. Hes a hustle player and good defensive player, nothing more and nothing less. I cant believe some fans think he is a possible offensive threat outside of a breakaway dunk. His ball handling is mediocre and his jumper is just as bad. Fans are getting way over their heads.....Ron is 100 times the player.

I think bringing Ron home might tighten some of his loose screws. and seriously, losing Nate, Q, Jeffries or Balk doesnt dent us in ANY way. Ron fills any void lost by the often injured Q and whatever role jeffries played. he is 50 times the defender balkman is......and Nate is the odd man out at the point anyways.

this is a no brainer if it can happen. and sure give up a first round pick...our potential pick has almost no chance of being better then Artest anyway

Good post. If u can get a player like Artest then giving up Balkman is a no-brainer.

**Da Grinch** · 08-05-2007, 11:40 AM

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs...es/007876.html

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August 04, 2007
Artest-to-Knicks rumors won't die anytime soon
As Las Vegas summer league came to a close in mid-July, Kings players gathered their belongings after a finale win over the Clippers and headed for the exits.

Among the last to leave was Daniel Artest, the younger brother of Ron Artest and a Kings summer league participant. The reason for his delay? He had been spotted by New York Knicks general manager Isiah Thomas, a longtime family friend and just the person whose ear Daniel wanted to bend.

They half-hugged and chatted for a moment when Daniel finally headed for the locker room.

"You campaigning to get Ron to New York," this reporter asked.

"You know it," Daniel said with a smile.

So long as the Knicks need help and Artest remains so far from his hometown team in the Big Apple, the chatter will continue about a possible homecoming. Nearly three weeks had passed since the last resurfacing of trade rumors until Friday, when ESPN writer Ric Bucher said during an on-line chat that he'd heard of a Kings-Knicks deal currently in the works.

But numerous sources said there's nothing doing at present, and the overall sense is that the Kings have never been close to what - in their estimation - would be giving Artest away. Jared Jeffries, for example, was a "centerpiece" of a proposal New York came the Kings' way with earlier in the summer, clearly meaning Thomas missed the memo stating that Kings exec Geoff Petrie is not as desperate to move Artest as once believed. And with the David Lee-types reportedly not available, the lone player of intrigue from the Kings' standpoint appears to be third-year point guard Nate Robinson. Otherwise, it's a blanket request gone unanswered for draft picks and expiring contracts as part of the Kings' rebuilding objective.

As the summer days have passed, Petrie appears to have bunkered down in his position, growing more and more stubborn and determined to improve the offers for Artest or point guard Mike Bibby. As Petrie knows, the desperation will eventually come - though not from him. Teams looking for that difference-maker to push them over the top next season will likely be more cooperative as the February trade deadline approaches. As leverage goes, the Kings are enjoying the luxury of operating under a long-term plan.

- Sam Amick

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