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08-03-2007, 09:54 AM
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ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...ndup-EastPower
After reading the above article and weighing it carefully with Isiah Thomas coaching (rotations) and selection of players, some of this truth is hard to swallow being a Knick Fan.
Last season if Head Coach Zeke would have stood his grounds as a hard nose coach by Starting "Marbury & Crawford" for 82 games and had Francis come off the bench to prove himself alot of things would have worked out for the best.
Also when David Lee & Balkman came off the bench and played 100% better alongside of Curry & Q.Richardson than Channing Frye throughout the first 15 games of the season that automatically sent electrical sparks to the media and fans that doubted Zeke draft pick for Balkman over Williams. Balkman showed 6th-Man performances, and David Lee performance went to the next level as a Knick Starter alongside of Curry & Q.Rich. Changes should've been made imediately for the Six Chemistry Players after the first 15 games last season.
Marbury, Crawford, Q.Rich, Lee, Curry, and 6th-Man Balkman (This Rookie overall talent last season made Jared Jefferies performance look like the average CBA player).
When Jared Jefferies came off the injured list and was healthy to play, it was to late the SF position was locked down with great performances for 48 MPG from Starter Q.Richardson and backup Rookie Balkman. When Head Coach Zeke showed he did not care how well "Q.Richardson & Balkman" were performing at the SF position, when he put Jared Jefferies at the SF position for 30 minutes of playingtime his first time playing as a Knick, and the next game imediately put Jared Jefferies in the Starting Lineup at SF over Q.Richardson given Jefferies 30 MPG.
That sowed the Knicks 2006-7 Season up for me, that was BUM Coaching and stupid-move of "Save-Face" coaching to showcase the G.M. selection of new players added to the roster which stopped the team from playing the best chemitry players together. Now Zeke Knick Team is adding a new traded player this offseason to their regular season Starting lineup because of his Stat-Sheet record and high contract (Zack Randolph).
This is why every NBA sports writer dont give the Knicks a chance at making the Playoffs this upcomming season because of having Curry & Zack start the first and third quarter of each of the 82 games. I dont see the two meshing together untill after 40 something loses next season. They are not complimetary players like Lewis & Howard, Pierce, Ray, and KG, or Steven Jackson, Felton, and Okafor. Everyone sees this but us Knick-Fans.
Did'nt we learn that Crawford is a better PARTNER for Marbury than Francis last season?
It has been obvious as the SUNLIGHT of mourning dew that David Lee is the BEST Partner for Eddy Curry in any lineup the Knicks made the last two seasons. I would rather see Malik Rose Start with Eddy Curry than Zack Randolph...
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08-03-2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
It gonna depend, on how well Randolph meshes with the team imo.
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08-03-2007, 11:00 AM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
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Originally Posted by o.iatlhawksfan
It gonna depend, on how well Randolph meshes with the team imo.
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yeah right now its all pretty much up 2 Zach
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08-03-2007, 11:56 AM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
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Originally Posted by o.iatlhawksfan
It gonna depend, on how well Randolph meshes with the team imo.
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Sports Writers all over is only counting the Knicks out of the Playoffs because KG is in their division now, and the Knicks Starting lineup of Zack & Curry is a BIG Joke just like the Marbury & Francis starting lineup when you had a better suitor in Crawford. David Lee is a 100 times better suitor with curry than Zack. and Balkman is the 6th Man off the bench and a 100 times better than Max MLE Jared Jefferies.
Dum Coaching is what Sports Writers is expecting from Zeke, that is why they count the Knicks out of the playoffs.
I remember when Austin Croshere got that big contract and Zeke put cheap contract Jermain O'Neal and rookie Miller ahead of him in the lineup and playingtime minutes on the Pacers roster. That was when Zeke knew how to coach. Now Zeke ranks the stupidest coach in the NBA...
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08-03-2007, 11:58 AM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
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yeah right now its all pretty much up 2 Zach
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Well, they wasn't a playoff team before, and ever since they got him, alot of people been saying, they can make the playoffs.
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08-03-2007, 12:37 PM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
KG basically ****ed up our chances, but let's keep hope alive that we can get the chemistry going and hope for some negativity that will grace some other ball club in the East. lol
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08-03-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
Hopefully the Knicks make it. With the Bulls being the favorites to be the #1 seed right now, we'd be getting Bulls vs. Knicks, first round of the playoffs.
The NBA can't take that away from us. Its been brewing for awhile now, but now its time for them to have a playoff series to take it up a level.
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08-04-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
as of now i believe the knicks are in it.
talentwise they are better than most of the conference and i expect washington not make it anyway ....too much turmoil they still haven't dealt with their brendan haywood situation where they decided he had to leave.
most teams in the east can say they are either the cream of the conference or very much improved...they aren't 1 of those teams.
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08-04-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
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Originally Posted by Da Grinch
as of now i believe the knicks are in it.
talentwise they are better than most of the conference and i expect washington not make it anyway ....too much turmoil they still haven't dealt with their brendan haywood situation where they decided he had to leave.
most teams in the east can say they are either the cream of the conference or very much improved...they aren't 1 of those teams.
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Yeah but then teams like the Bucks and Celtics are significantly better than they were last year; the Bucks because of their health and the Celtics because they just formed a Hall of Fame team. When you factor in other teams like the Pacers who may very well get better with better chemistry and the same playoff teams of yesteryear, I do not believe we are sure fire locks for the playoffs.
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08-04-2007, 10:16 PM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
Like I said, this is a double knockout for the Knicks when Boston got Garnett. It ensures that we will need Balkman, Lee and others to hold Garnett and then we will need top notch defense to guard Allen. We already had problems with Pierce.
Our two worst problem is perimeter defense... Hello Ray Allen please don't kill us like Reggie. And our interior jello defense. Yippee Kayay
The thing is that Boston easily put the knicks as favorites not getting into the playoffs.
So far I have...
Boston, NJ, Toronto
Orlando, Miami
Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago
even Da Grinch who is Mr. optimistic with IT says that we are better than most in our conference. Which team above we could possibly be better? I probably see one team and thats Orlando that we might be better. If Shaq goes down, that will be no.2.
The only team I think that will be fighting for a playoff spot instead of fighting a good seed/opponent is Miami.
Lets REMOTELY consider Da Grinch words by saying that WAshington will be the team that we will replace in the playoffs. How about Milwaukee and Charlotte? Has anyone forgotten about them? Didn't we have trouble against Charlotte last year and they weren't healthy.
I think the Knicks are outside looking in, they have a tough mountain to climb, especially now that the Atlantic Division has gotten much better.
Please tell me where do the Knicks rank Da Grinch when you said we are a better team than most.
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08-04-2007, 10:59 PM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
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Originally Posted by TwinkieFoot
Yeah but then teams like the Bucks and Celtics are significantly better than they were last year; the Bucks because of their health and the Celtics because they just formed a Hall of Fame team. When you factor in other teams like the Pacers who may very well get better with better chemistry and the same playoff teams of yesteryear, I do not believe we are sure fire locks for the playoffs.
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i hear ya, but to me aside from injuries there are some locks but i think the knicks will make it.
i break down the east like this.
bulls, cavs, pistons, raptors and heat are virtual locks....all should be 50+ or at least close to it win teams.
the celts have no depth and 3 guys who are great when healthy but allen and pierce missed 27 and 35 games last season garnett only 6 , and no other players that are really bonafide starters on most teams.any injury would be devastating because there is no type of replacement talent available.
the nets to me are a low 40s to mid 40s win team so they should make it , but if lets say krstic gets hurt this year with no miiki moore their season goes with him...they could fall out of the playoffs but i think they will make it.
the magic could make it , they made it last year and they swapped out hill for lewis so they should be better, but not by much at all, they lost darko for nothing and have no real big man depth...an injury could get rid of them quick..i think they will miss hill and his cool head and vet savvy because its a very young team.
the wizards are decent but even relatively healthy were only a 45 win team the last few years , the east is alot better this year , i am not sure they can win that much again especially if they wind up selling haywood for pennies on the dollar since theybacked themselves in a corner saying they had to get rid of him....they could easily miss it.
the knicks were in the playoffs until that bunch of injuries in march , and have added zach randolph for a francis who really didn't help much at all last season and frye , the league's worst pf and possibly its worst starter...the team's biggest positional weakness becomes posibly its biggest strength especially with lee as backup .
the pacers i give virtually no chance of making it , they are trying to trade the only guy on their team that is really worth having (j. o'neal) even if he stayed he has no decent 2nd option.
philly i give no chance i pretty much consider last season luck...they should be horrible this season.
the bucks are ok but they were like 1-15 in their division last season , just too many bad matchups there ...one of the few teams in the league worse on defense than the knicks ...not likely to change. so i cant see them making it.
the hawks, bobcats
are just too young.
i think the last 2 seeds wil be a dogfight out of the wizards , nets, knicks and magic...i just feel the knicks are the deepest out of these teams so they should weather injuries better ...so i think they are a good bet to make it.
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08-05-2007, 12:16 AM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
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08-05-2007, 08:12 AM
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Re: ESPN says, No Knick Playoffs
what are the odds of the knicks making the playoffs? does anybody know
if the odds give a decent payout i would put money on it
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