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09-10-2007, 06:02 PM
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Thomas Report Card
http://www.knickerblogger.net/2007/0...-isiah-thomas/
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KnickerBlogger: Isiah Thomas started off the 2007 with a lot of pressure on his shoulders. New York had just come of a disastrous 23 win season under Larry Brown. Thomas was widely criticized for taking Renaldo Balkman in the draft. The Knicks’ owner James Dolan gave Thomas an order to improve the team or pack his bags. Thomas was forced to take over as coach of the Knicks, something he promised he wouldn’t do. His reputation as a coach and a general manager were both on the line. In mid-March the Knicks were 29-34 and held the 8th and final playoff spot. Isiah Thomas was given a contract extension as was safe for another year.
However, the team floundered down the stretch. After re-signing Thomas, the Knicks would win only 4 of it’s last 15 games and ended up in 11th place in the East. All in all were 33 wins disappointing? It depends on your expectations. Of the 79 teams in NBA history that had a winning percentage equal to or worse than the 2006 Knicks 23 win team, only 19 of them won 33 or more games the next season. The average improvement of those 79 teams was 8.7 wins, something the 2007 Knicks exceeded. Given those expectations, it’s hard to say Isiah Thomas did a bad job as coach of the Knicks.
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I think its a fair evaluation.
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09-10-2007, 06:23 PM
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Re: Thomas Report Card
what if.....
i really would like to know the answer to that 1
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09-10-2007, 07:46 PM
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Re: Thomas Report Card
You know when the NBA season is near, when the Isiah Thomas propaganda takes place. Until I see the playoffs and a 2nd round appearance I won't be satisfied.
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09-14-2007, 05:21 AM
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Re: Thomas Report Card
My BIG Beef with President/Coach Isiah Thomas is 5 coaches in 4 years and giving-up expiring contracts for "Individual Talent Players" that can not form a Team. When those expiring contracts could have been used better by alot of people in this Forum.
Being a Knick-Fan for 35 years I actually thought Laydumb 4 years was the worst. But Isiah is the worst! Even with all the great draft picks Isiah made Knicks does not make him better than Laydumb.
Laydumb gave Isiah 6 expiring contracts in his first season and half as the Knicks G.M., and all 14 players contract expired before Isiah reached his 4th season as the Knicks G.M..
1) Marbury
2) Crawford
3) Q.Richardson
4) Zach
5) Curry
The above Five-Players NBA career showed they are "Individual Talanted Players" inwhich will be the Knicks 5-Starters in the 2007-8 season.
Q.Richardson has shown the best improvement of playing Team-ball after being coached by Larry Brown for a season. Marbury & Crawford has shown a little change however, all three players still have that "One on One" tendency that are not fully deleted from their talent & skillz.
The Knicks coaching staff has a Big Job on their hands at the start of Training-Camp.
If the Knicks cant get into the swing of WINNING 5 to 7 games straight in a couple of runs this season to become a TEAM, and the best they could do is just WIN 3 straight once or twice this season then the Knicks are just an "Individual Talented" group of guys who beat poor teams or injured teams for the win.
Enough with the jacking of shots in 1-1 play. Distribute the damn ball but do it properly!
Marbury dribbles up and then stands there looking around before passing to a player who is fully covered and cant do anything with it.
Crawford does a few AND1 moves and either jacks a terrible shot or whips the ball at a teammate who is covered and then cant do anything with it.
Neither of these guys know what it means to catch a defense off balance, then hit the OPEN player. Neither knows how to run a motion offense. We're doomed to be a plodding halfcourt team.
The Five-Players above are "Individual Talent" that does not form a Team.
However they are on my Favorite Team I been a Fan of for 35 years.
What piss me off the most about Marbury & Crawford is that they will dribble the shot clock down to 6 to 4 seconds left and then pass the ball to a teammate that is fully covered. or pass the ball to a non-offensive player like Malik Rose or Jared Jefferies with the shotclock down to 4 or 3 seconds (something Parker or Arenas would never do) and the Knick Coach would never take them out of the game for being so stupid.
That is not just bad decision-making that is very immature for a veteran guard to do in the NBA.
I would rather the (so-call) imature Nate Robinson or second-season Marty Collins on the court than Marbury or Crawford if they dont put Team first this season.
P.S. Ex-Knick Allan Houston hated when Marbury did that to him, and Marbury never got reprimanded by coach Lenny Wilkens for doing this repeatedly.
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09-18-2007, 05:26 AM
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Re: Thomas Report Card
Sitting inside the Garden a hour before the games, you will see Assistant Coach Mark Aquire and Curry on the court practicing before the game. When they get finish and leave the court you would see Nate Robinson the first one running out on the court to get some practice shots in with Frye, Lee, and Balkman. With Nate doing alot of Horse routines with his teammates.
Whats wrong with the picture above?
1) Favoriticism to Eddy Curry when the starting Tandem of Curry & Frye was not getting defensive rebounds together, and passing to each other downlow. If anything the two players Curry & Frye should've been practicing together before every game with assistant coach Mark Aquire.
2) The backcourt Guards of Marbury, Francis, and Crawford was not successful in sharing the ball with their scoring bigmen on offense to have the Knicks one of the top 5 teams leading in assist made last season. So the so-call imature Nate Robinson being the first one on the court to practice before the game without any of the other veteran guards with him to get their passing-game accurate with Curry and Balkman defending the passing lanes to get a blockshot was poor assistant coaching on Isiah Thomas part reminding me of the past Chicago Bulls frontcourt "Individual Talent" play that made them a consecutive LOTTERY Team each season.
3) Having tickets for the Boston Celtics game at the Garden this season and getting to the Garden a hour before the game to see if the Knicks have a set PLAN for this ALL-STAR Celtics team where they come out practicing this plan with certain players before the game start will show you if they been getting prepared for the Winning teams in their Division. If the Knicks dont show any preperation for the teams in their Division like they did last season then we Knick-Fans know what to expect from this upcomming season.
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09-18-2007, 02:52 PM
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Re: Thomas Report Card
here is a list of the top 15 nba players from last year based on their appearance on the all nba teams...kiya you'll notice that none of these players have ever been traded for just ending contracts , in fact i think only garnett has been traded and an ending contract was involved , but i think we all know the t'wolves dont want theo ratliff , they wanted the other 4 guys and the draft picks that came with him.
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2006-07 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (125) 634
Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio (94) 573
Center Amaré Stoudemire, Phoenix (36) 351
Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (129) 645
Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (128) 643
2006-07 ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (64) 494
Forward Chris Bosh, Toronto (8) 234
Center Yao Ming, Houston (38) 333
Guard Gilbert Arenas, Washington 295
Guard Tracy McGrady, Houston (10) 278
2006-07 ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Kevin Garnett, Minnesota (5) 225
Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (1) 142
Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (1) 108
Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (1) 241
Guard Chauncey Billups, Detroit 86
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the point i am trying make is that ending contracts are just an asset , but no ending deal is worth a player , ending deals are just a chance to start over which of course means you think you are better off with nothing than the guy you are dealing .
and generally if you are lucky enough to get your hands on a top 15 player , you keep him , you'll notice most of these guys have never been traded period.
you aren't going to get a guy who is going to set the nba on fire for an ending contract and most teams who want to start over are doing so because their present with that player isn't so hot ....so basically he is only so good anyway and not of much value to that franchise. anymore.
almost always when you get some1 who is really a great player you have to give up alot to get him(usually alot of guys who can play and still on theor rookie deals) the ending deals only help make the salaries match and let that team start over with the youth(or just a lesser paid star) 1 team just sent over.
another thing , teams want and need individual talents ...its up to the coach to make those talents play together , it wasn't so long ago the pistons were just a team with "losers" on them billups was a bust once upon a time , Rip hamilton was dealt to the pistons because MJ didn't think he was worth the money he wanted , Sheed was a flawed tech magnet who didn't want the ball when his team needed him most , and mcdyess was knowm as much for crippling the knicks as he was for once upon a time being a good player.
but they became a team and won alot of games and eventually a title ...without alot of individual talent a team usually sucks.
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