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09-16-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: Watch Isiah trade all his youth
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Originally Posted by Dean the Master
Not a bad trade actually.
Knicks have enough depth to make that trade.
Curry
Randolph
Richardson or Crawford
Kobe
Marbury
It is a great if not the best starting lineup on paper anyway.
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09-16-2007, 02:31 PM
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Re: Watch Isiah trade all his youth
But I won't be shocked if LA ask for Crawford and Nate while sending Vujacic and Radman to NY. They'll take Crawford because they will need a replacement at SG while Nate add depth at PG (and is a better player than Sasha)
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09-16-2007, 03:04 PM
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Re: Watch Isiah trade all his youth
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But I won't be shocked if LA ask for Crawford and Nate while sending Vujacic and Radman to NY. They'll take Crawford because they will need a replacement at SG while Nate add depth at PG (and is a better player than Sasha)
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So the incentive in this trade for the Knicks is to become a worse team? Vajacic and Radmanovic certainly do not command the trade value or quality of performance to substitute or even approach what Nate and Crawford can do.
Only trades I make with LA is for Kobe, Odom or both.
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09-16-2007, 09:40 PM
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So the incentive in this trade for the Knicks is to become a worse team? Vujacic and Radmanovic certainly do not command the trade value or quality of performance to substitute or even approach what Nate and Crawford can do.
Only trades I make with LA is for Kobe, Odom or both.
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Well, I guess that I was misunderstood, I put Crawford and Nate in the Kobe idea...
My idea was Malik Rose, Jeffries, Lee, Balkman, Crawford and Nate for Kobe, Radmanovic and Vujacic... Which I think that Lakers may bite and it would be a good move for NY (since they'll get Kobe).
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09-17-2007, 02:25 AM
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Re: Watch Isiah trade all his youth
It still wouldn't beat the big 3 in Boston tho.
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09-17-2007, 01:47 PM
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Well, I guess that I was misunderstood, I put Crawford and Nate in the Kobe idea...
My idea was Malik Rose, Jeffries, Lee, Balkman, Crawford and Nate for Kobe, Radmanovic and Vujacic... Which I think that Lakers may bite and it would be a good move for NY (since they'll get Kobe).
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That was my fault and I apologize for it. I could go for that deal was well but I honestly believe we'd have a little bit more than we needed on the offensive end of the floor; Kobe, Marbury, Randolph and Curry? Doesn't seem to be necessary and could be invested in other aspects of the game we'd still have issues with like defense and shot blocking.
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09-17-2007, 01:52 PM
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It still wouldn't beat the big 3 in Boston tho.
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I recall the Lakers having a big 4 that certainly created more hype than the Celtic's big 3 who didn't win a title in part because of the same issues the Celtics have, injuries.
I wouldn't put it past the Knicks to be better than the Celtics with Kobe considering that Kobe is the best player on either team.
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09-18-2007, 06:37 AM
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Re: Watch Isiah trade all his youth
I'm suprise that the Lakers Exec Phil Jackson did not try to get a trade with the Knicks for just Nate Robinson this offseason. Nate Robinson would fit great in Phil Jax Triangle Plan for a running team and Nate open 3-pointers with playmaker Kobe & Odom leading the show.
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09-18-2007, 03:56 PM
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I'm suprise that the Lakers Exec Phil Jackson did not try to get a trade with the Knicks for just Nate Robinson this offseason. Nate Robinson would fit great in Phil Jax Triangle Plan for a running team and Nate open 3-pointers with playmaker Kobe & Odom leading the show.
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jackson doesn't like small guards.
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09-18-2007, 08:58 PM
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I recall the Lakers having a big 4 that certainly created more hype than the Celtic's big 3 who didn't win a title in part because of the same issues the Celtics have, injuries.
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URGH!!! How many god damn times will I have to hear this comparison? The Lakers had Shaq, Kobe, and 2 players well past their primes. And with those two players way, way, way past their best basketball, they still made the fricking finals. While KG/Pierce can't touch Shaq/Kobe, Ray Allen is leagues better than a mid-late 30s Payton or Malone.
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09-19-2007, 04:53 AM
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URGH!!! How many god damn times will I have to hear this comparison? The Lakers had Shaq, Kobe, and 2 players well past their primes. And with those two players way, way, way past their best basketball, they still made the fricking finals. While KG/Pierce can't touch Shaq/Kobe, Ray Allen is leagues better than a mid-late 30s Payton or Malone.
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that laker team also had a battle tested veteran roster who had been together for years who knew their roles and a hall of fame coach.
the celts gutted their team for garnett and allen and are coached by the father of a 13 who beat your starting point guard in a shooting drill....the celts are 3 stars and little else.
they aren't the same and the season should tell if they are worth all the hype.
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09-21-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: Watch Isiah trade all his youth
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Originally Posted by mqtcelticsfan
URGH!!! How many god damn times will I have to hear this comparison? The Lakers had Shaq, Kobe, and 2 players well past their primes. And with those two players way, way, way past their best basketball, they still made the fricking finals. While KG/Pierce can't touch Shaq/Kobe, Ray Allen is leagues better than a mid-late 30s Payton or Malone.
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Just to add to what DaGrinch mentioned, Karl Malone and Gary Payton were well just a season removed from 20ppg and 8rpg and 20ppg and 8apg. One season did not make that dramatic a difference in their ability to play the game on that level.
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09-22-2007, 07:40 AM
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Agree Twink...
They had PLENTY of talent on that roster. The issues were more of a chemistry nature.
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