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ChosenFEW · 11-20-2007, 02:34 PM

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#1) I never compared him to Marbury, another poster did
#2) I never said Dnic was anything other than a player that the Knicks could use to correct some deficiencies. Still true.
#3) I watched Mayo in multiple all-star games. Self-centered. And before you give some spiel about the typical all star game format, I have seen lots of great players go through those games without being a hog. He wasn't one of them, and in fact, wasn't even good in most of them.
#4) OJ was in well publicized fights in HS and has already been in one with one of his teammates at USC.

Allstar games..... oh OK. i guess that could be considered a game....

**ehmunro** · 11-20-2007, 04:03 PM

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Allstar games..... oh OK. i guess that could be considered a game....

They're the best way to judge a players "cancer" potential. I mean, look how great J.R. Smith looked in the McDonalds game. And look how dominant he's been on the NBA level,

alphaorange · 11-21-2007, 09:58 AM

Still never backed up your original statement....nice dancing. Don't bother posting back on this subject unless you intend on backing up your claims.

knickstorm · 11-21-2007, 10:26 AM

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Allstar games..... oh OK. i guess that could be considered a game....

didnt mayo have an open 3 to win one of the all star games at the buzzer nad he choked............look at the USC games, that's typical mayo......he puts up the most shots........gets 29 pts, but they wont win cause hackett or whoever the guy is, puts in 20+ points 10 boards, 10 assists.....a triple double......Mayo's press team must've lit him up after the game...........i'm not denying he doesnt have skill, he's just not going to be a team player at all........he'll be another talented player who doesnt "get it"

**ehmunro** · 11-21-2007, 10:56 AM

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Still never backed up your original statement....nice dancing. Don't bother posting back on this subject unless you intend on backing up your claims.

Nice dancing? You mean pointing out your glaring flaw as a talent evaluator, illustrating it in action in your own words, and then pointing to the specific quote after your denial? In the last year I've heard you tell us all that Channing Frye was going to be better than whoever Phoenix drafted with Atnalta's first round pick (which is theoretically possible, the Suns could draft a bust of even bigger proportions), that Josh Smith would never be able to play the 4 in the NBA (boy, were you right on that

), that Josh Childress was "a shorter Jeffries" (again, two players that have almost nothing in common, aside from your dislike of them), and compared Danny Fortson to Elton Brand (

). Two other players with nothing in common, except your fanboy crush on Fortson. Though, in fairness, I suppose you could say that if we took away EB's skills, hoops IQ, and an inch of height we'd definitely have Danny Fortson.

**ehmunro** · 11-21-2007, 10:58 AM

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didnt mayo have an open 3 to win one of the all star games at the buzzer nad he choked............look at the USC games, that's typical mayo......he puts up the most shots........gets 29 pts, but they wont win cause hackett or whoever the guy is, puts in 20+ points 10 boards, 10 assists.....a triple double......Mayo's press team must've lit him up after the game...........i'm not denying he doesnt have skill, he's just not going to be a team player at all........he'll be another talented player who doesnt "get it"

So you're telling us that Durant "will never get it"? (Whatever the **** "it" is, no one seems to be able to define "it".)

knickstorm · 11-21-2007, 01:31 PM

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So you're telling us that Durant "will never get it"? (Whatever the **** "it" is, no one seems to be able to define "it".)

kevin durant didnt send some intermediary to Texas telling them he'd come to their school only because he could get the most media attention, be the star there because they dont have any other stars...and basically force the school to take on a hs teammate of his..........kevin durant didnt have a press team/entourage that came along with him to texas.........."it" is a lotta things, ie baggage, inability to put the demands of the team over your own.............Kevin Durant isnt billed as PG either so i dont care that he shot the ball like crazy in college, plus he was a monster on the boards......but Mayo is supposed to be running the point. Durant is a coach's dream, low maintenence, attentive, non-combative..........Mayo is exactly the opposite........even the HS refs couldnt stand this kid.......

alphaorange · 11-21-2007, 03:01 PM

......where I said that Frye would be better than anyone the Suns drafted with that pick. Won't happen cuz I never said it. The only shred of any truth in your whole post is about Josh Smith. I still don't see him as a pF. Sure he can play there but he is being outplayed by his opponents, despite scoring more. You're absolutely full of crap. So the one thing you can come up with is questionable and the others you made up stuff. You're a loser. I expected more from a mod. I guess when you can't use facts, use your imagination.

Hint...check 82games.com to see how Smith is doing compared to his opponents.

alphaorange · 11-21-2007, 03:10 PM

Perhaps you could reference the post directly that you quoted me on? Bring it in here as a quote so I can eat crow. What? Can't find it? What a surprise. I am, however, ready for one of your clever quick hitters. You know...like the one where you say.."He's certainly big enough to be an anchor".. That was a real rib tickler. See how that quote thingy works? You find the statement, put those funny marks at the beginning and end, and you have a quote. Note....it must be something actually said. Otherwise it's just paraphrasing or a lie...which is worthless.

**ehmunro** · 11-21-2007, 04:34 PM

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......where I said that Frye would be better than anyone the Suns drafted with that pick. Won't happen cuz I never said it. The only shred of any truth in your whole post is about Josh Smith. I still don't see him as a pF. Sure he can play there but he is being outplayed by his opponents, despite scoring more. You're absolutely full of crap. So the one thing you can come up with is questionable and the others you made up stuff. You're a loser. I expected more from a mod. I guess when you can't use facts, use your imagination. ...

Perhaps you could reference the post directly that you quoted me on? Bring it in here as a quote so I can eat crow. What? Can't find it? What a surprise. I am, however, ready for one of your clever quick hitters. You know...like the one where you say.."He's certainly big enough to be an anchor".. That was a real rib tickler. See how that quote thingy works? You find the statement, put those funny marks at the beginning and end, and you have a quote. Note....it must be something actually said. Otherwise it's just paraphrasing or a lie...which is worthless.

Well, I did directly reference the quote in this thread where you compared two players that you hate with nothing in common but your hatred of them, after you denied making such a statement. So, in fact, I think I did produce the evidence. As for your denials of some of your past bloomers, here's just a quick sample using the site's search function:

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... I qualified by saying the player must have a decent offensive game to begin with. You know this but ignored it for your case. Secondly, Brands game is all around...in and out. Curry's is strictly inside, like Fortsons (see the comparison?). Brand also has a 7'+ wingspan. W/O the span and the jumper he is Fortson

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Childress is a lot like Jeffries with an occasional jumper.

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Childress= off the bench= smaller version of JJeffries

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Why in the hell do you make that trade? Kurt is at the end of his career, Jones is a bit player. You are saying Kurt and Jones for Frye and Rose.....and the opportunity to pick as high as 4 and as low as 14th instead of 20 or so? Rose ans Kurt are similar in value but Frye is worth far more than Jones and the jump in picks, Good thing you're not the GM. If Oden and the Texas Tornado stay in school (and indications are they just might...they love it), then the draft becomes very ordinary where the Knicks would be picking at the BEST spot.

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I know you have real desire to obtain the Josh brothers but you are not really improving the team. Smith is an offensive step down from Frye and a step down from Lee in multiple categories. Childress is a HUGE offensive step down from Qrich, not to mention no better on defense.

That's a random sample generated in about ten minutes work. I suppose I could find a whole lot more if I wanted to waste the time.

alphaorange · 11-22-2007, 08:45 AM

Really not worth responding to. Taking snippets out of context to prove a point. Without reading the whole argument the small pieces you picked mean nothing. That "Fortson" quote was part of a discussion about how Curry was not a guy you could build a team around. I said that if he played against other players his size, he would score more. So you thing Curry is a "franchise" player? If yes, tells me a lot about your analytical skills. If no, you are agreeing with me. I'll stick with the other stuff in the context it was posted.

**ehmunro** · 11-22-2007, 10:05 AM

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Really not worth responding to. Taking snippets out of context to prove a point. Without reading the whole argument the small pieces you picked mean nothing. That "Fortson" quote was part of a discussion about how Curry was not a guy you could build a team around. I said that if he played against other players his size, he would score more. So you thing Curry is a "franchise" player? If yes, tells me a lot about your analytical skills. If no, you are agreeing with me. I'll stick with the other stuff in the context it was posted.

What does Curry have to do with your claim that Fortson was comparable to Elton Brand? Eddy Curry isn't even germane to your claim. Your use of it here to change the simple meaning of your words is a not terribly clever attempt to weasel off the hook. But it isn't working. I think I've more than amply shown how your subjective likes/dislikes colour your perceptions.

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