alphaorange

like Andre Miller? There is a REASON they are available. We need to start getting guy we can build around. And I mean for real. We don't have ANYONE. I had hoped I was wrong about Curry and that you would be right but it just isn't to be. Zach is another guy that just has too many flaws. Marbury? I was right about him when they first got him. Cancer. JC? 6th man. Q? not any more. Lee? Starter with the right guys around him. 12-14/10-12 board guy. Balkman? Depends on the team around him. We don't need journeymen. We need a stud.

the_shamus

Let's do another Bulls/Knicks trade: Gordon and Wallace to NY for Randolph and Jones. You guys someone to defend and rebound next to Curry and your native son Gordon would be good paired with Crawford in the backcourt. There you go, both teams benifit and are more balanced.

Krstic All Star

That'd be GREAT for the Knicks, but the Bulls would have to be insane to do it.

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TwinkieFoot

I don't think there is ever a discussion about the top 5 best PG's in the game without Andre Miller's name being mentioned. I believe that he is the ultimate proof that the number of times you move to different teams is reflective of how good a player you are rather than teams not wanting you; if you think about it, most NBA players spend an average of 5 seasons give or take in the league. He was first traded to the Clippers because he wanted out and was moved for one of the league's top young prospect in Darius Miles at the time. He signed with the Nuggets because the Clippers were to cheap to pay him and traded to the Sixers because there was no other way of landing a superstar like Allen Iverson without giving up talent in return.

The Pistons were founded on a team of journeymen and they not only have won a championship in recent years but also been contenders for several. CHAUNCEY BILLUPS was very much a journyman throughout his NBA career and was actually the Finals MVP. Andre Miller at the very least has remained productive and an integral component of every team he has been with, something Billups can not say. Although the Knicks do not have the major building block, they have several high caliber players that if paired with the proper teammates can make alot of noise.

Tom

It will take a while...the Knicks need more Tradeable players...like David Lee. You get a few more of these guys you can package them with a weaker Marquee player and still get a star.

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TwinkieFoot

I think that this is actually a trade that works more in favor of the Bulls. Ben Wallace's game is steadily declining and Gordon to me is the perfect example of an individual whose game benefits more from the system than the system from his game. He's a mediocre defender and possess' little known ability outside of scoring the ball very well from the perimeter. I'm not a fan and do not believe that hurting ourselves even worse financially and getting back less talent in the process is the way to go.

TwinkieFoot

To be honest, I believe our team is filled with tradeable players but just ones who do not readily fit each other. People complain about these guys being winners but that is largely because most are too young to ever have been given the opportunity to win before they arrived with the Knicks who have been in upheaval for years. Some of them, such as Quentin Richardson have proven to be productive players within winning systems elsewhere in the league so I have no doubt that he can be moved for someone valuable down the road. I think right now, we have just how have to condense our roster and find more "glue guys" similar to what Colangelo did with the Raptors when he first arrived. We have the pieces, we just need to rearrange things around them to work (and it is very much possible).

alphaorange

However, Miller has been actively SHOPPED by every team he has played for, sans Cavs. Denver looked for a "buyer" after his first season there. The fact that the Sixers keep bringing his name up has more to do with sending him down the road than it does keeping him. They have no viable replacement. I can't recall any team asking about his availability the last 3 years. Thats because everyone knows he is available.

Kiyaman

Every response to this Post has some value-points however, this Post "How would you fix the Knicks?" would not exist if President/Head Coach Isiah Thomas, Herb Williams, Mark Aquire, and Hannerty, would have done their Jobs this offseason weeks before Training-Camp had open, by assembling the entire Roster for a couple of Pick-up games.
The WINNING Players were right there in the offseason aquisition of Zach, Jones, with Rookies Morris, Chandler, and D-Nichols.

All this Knick-Team was lacking was/is a Basic-System to follow up on in Offense and Defense, which could have been established during the offseason so the players would know their ROLE on this team before Training-Camp opened.

The Knicks drafted their Two Star offensive Players in the 2007 Draft in 6.8 Wilson Chandler and 6.8 Demetris Nichols whom only needed one personal training coach for these two outstanding Tandem players whom (co-exist with each other at 6.8) a chemistry could have been built at the SF/SG position (Future Knicks) which may not have been a "Jordan/Pippin", but the two had a co-existing future together as Rookies defending the passing lane while playing outstanding B-Ball with each other.
The two players offense on the "Peremeter" together was devastating and the number one reason to keep both players on the roster to build just on that in the next two seasons (They seem to challenge each other in practice on hitting 3's which this Knick team is in a desperate need of with our Starting-5 always falling behind in points vs the next team.).

If the Knicks were Coached right this 2007-8 season those two Rookies would've added a big-punch off the bench in each game they played in from the peremeter just averaging 10 to 12 minutes together in any game they played in (Like I said the two long bodies are outstanding defenders on the passing lane.).

Why Head Coach Isiah Thomas dont take advantage of the Knick-Players that co-exist together on the court, and keep giving them playingtime together is the main reason why I feel the Knicks have a 5-11 record and No Team Chemistry to build success with.

The Knicks SF-Q.Richardson & SG-Crawford dont seem to be working together on offense or defense. The two Knick-Starters talents and Skillz keep falling back on a "One on One" system that does'nt add presure to any of the Knick oponents making the Knicks weak at both the SF and SG positions. This would've been the right reasons to replace them with the two rookies (SF-Chandler & SG-D.Nichols) in the last 3 to 4 minutes of the quarter every other game. To build on the Rookies and let the Knick-Fans voice the play of SF-Q.Richardson and SG-Crawford perfomance together at MSG.

The Knicks dont have any ALL-STAR Players on their Roster however, the Knicks Head Coach rotation of Players this season says it does with a 5-11 record.
Is it the Knick Players or the President/Head Coach reason for a 5-11 record???

loganporter

nothing short of a buy out by a foreign national would achieve a quick fix a la the rockets of houston.

are we on the same page yet?

eddymac

After giving it long thought this is what I would do to rebuild the Knicks.
First of all I like Isiah Thomas but he put together the wrong mix of players. He knows talent he just doesn't know how to out it together, so my first move would be to bring in someone with a proven track record. For example Jerry West he is proven as an executive in the NBA. He and Isiah would work together. The next move would be to remove Isiah as the head coach and hire someone who will be in it for the longhaul. For example Rick Carlise etc. The next move is to establish some kind of order. This means players will be dealt with accordingly if they break the rules.

As for the players I have three catagories for the players on the current Knicks roster.

Needs to leave

Stephon Marbury
Zach Randoplh
Jared Jefferies
Quinten Richardson
Fred Jones
Jerome James
Nate Robinson

On the fence

Eddy Curry
Jamal Crawford
Wilson Chandler
Mardy Collins
Randolph Morris

Keepers

David Lee
Renaldo Balkman
Malik Rose

Considering that Marbury's cantract expires in the summer of 09, you let it run its natural course and let it expire and he walks as a free agent. Same thing with Fred Jones. Richardson's contract expires in the summer of 2010 you let his contract off the cap. You can try and deal players like Nate Robinson whose contract expires in 2010, you can package him or you can let his contract expire. I would waive Jefferies and eat the rest of the salary. Same with Jerome James whose contract expires in 2010. I would try and deal Zach as well as Robinson to a team like Chicago because they need a frontcourt scorer plus he and Ben Wallace would compliment each other in the paint. In return you get expiring deals and draft picks.

So that way you land someone like Derrick Rose who would run the team. You also use the other Bulls pick to get players that fill your need.

Within 09 and 11 alot of these bad contracts would come off the books and you can begin to rebuild through the draft, and reserve enough cap space for a big free agent pickup.

Tragedy

Malik Rose is not a keeper.

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