Da Grinch

Alpha ,

for the most part your posts on this thread have been ridiculous.

on one hand you want to lay insult on people for differing with your opinions and demand substantial proof for the nerve others have to actually have an opinion different than your own.

but when the tables are turned you provide the same snide attitude but no proof of any kind.

where is the proof that winners are born?

where is the proof that killer instinct comes at birth ?

all you did was provide some quotes on the theory of leadership qualities.

there are plenty of leaders in the nba that cant beat you because they dont have a killer instict and have won nothing ...so your post on it actually makes you look more foolish

so basically to have so much gall to put down people time and time again when all you have actually provided is foolishness makes you look stupid , ill mannered and to have no real knowledge of reading comprehension , basketball or pyschology(sports pscyhology specifically) and its a rare triple feat so i guess if you want to take a silver lining on this , there is that because its rare some1 can come on a thing as menial as a basketball thread and expose themselves so thoroughly.

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alphaorange

I never said Killer instinct was inborn. I also made it clear, when those with differing opinions distorted what was posted, that the TRAITS that allow a person to become leaders, "winners", etc. are considered to be part of a persons genetic make up. I also cited studies that support this. Instead of jumping in with nothing, why don't you get off your lazy opinionated butt and find something that supports your position. Or maybe you can come up with a real pearl like "MJs been there and done that". What the hell does that even mean? If you dissenters wish to frame your POV as your opinion, fine. I can respect that. But don't jump in saying I'm wrong and you and the others are right if you have nothing to offer as support for your opinion. These are not theories, grinch. They were studies that concluded these qualities are inborn. I could find many others very easily. Again, show me something legitimate the is contrary. Or shut the hell up because I'm not interested in your OPINION regarding this.

Da Grinch

post 41 from this thread:

what is the it that i underline and bolded , the only think you spoke that it could be is killer instinct.

so you never actually posted the words but its rather obvious thats what you were saying.


when you call people idiot its ironic ...you do know that dont you?

and in case you didn't know there is this thing called called sports psychology and a rather large portion of it is based around getting people to aquire these traits(killer instinct , drive, leadership) you say people can only be born with .

so why dont you look it up learn a little something ...and we'll move on.

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"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together in terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior. I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."- Abraham Lincoln Sixth Debate with Steven A. Douglas at Quincy, Ill., Oct. 13, 1858

alphaorange

It just gets old having to go back and explain every ****ing thing you post. I don't spend a whole lotta time writing these things. The whole gist is...and has been....are the traits that allow a person to be a winner or a leader a product of genetic make-up or "inborn"? To go back and try to make it into something other than that is not right. I've explained many times what this is about...including a post BEFORE you previously responded. I give you guys a lot of latitude in how you phrase things, choosing not to pick apart your phrases to distort the real meaning. If you wish to turn this into a forum of "contract language", count me out.

Besides, I see nothing in my post to suggest that killer instinct (it) is not a product of genetic make-up and therefore, technically, is consistent with my stance. A blue ribbon for you for finding a word that makes my last statement incorrect. Also, MJs killer instinct has little to do with the general idea of the post. It is a but one part of his qualities (the killer instinct, which by the way, and which was HONED by his competitions with his bro). Whether I said it or not (and I did) is irrelevant. Let's just break this down into simple concepts that can be responded to in simple ways.

My stance is that the traits that allow a person to become a leader,or winner at high levels is governed by genetic make-up. I supported this by citing actual research. All opposed to this idea please do not post back on anything that is not supported by some legitimate source, unless you qualify by stating it as your opinion. Simple rules, right? See who can follow them.

Da Grinch

its a shame you are delusional about your own behavior .

you claim not to want to pick apart posts based on what you termed "contract language" but that is what you attempted to do to me and others on this thread ...but when its thrown back at you ...

you suddenly dont want to play this game anymore .

you dish out stuff all the time as far as insults and little snide remarks putting people down but seem a little thin skinned when its thrown back at you and thats a sad indictment on you, it really is.

i have no problem letting things of that nature slide , there are people on this board who make those kind of mistakes all the time and i never call them on it and I dont plan to in the future I simply do my best to understand their point and converse with them on that level and the reason is simple I treat people the way they treat others as far as I can see.

If you were a poster who treated people with respect , from me you'd get it.

if you were the kind of poster who would let "contract language" as you term it slide , I would let your errors slide with no problem...i would never even mention them because i really dont need to I am perfectly capable of making my point without them.


this board is as leniant as any board on this site as far as the stuff said and the ideas expressed, this thread is supposedly about Thomas' job performance , the last time anyone even mentioned Thomas was like 5 pages back, if no one else cares , than neither do I.

You swear you've made your point over and over again , and if you really knew anything about the subject and I believe it was Chan who pointed it out to you but you failed to grasp it was this .

they are all theories ...none of it is factual and you cant really prove a theory , because if you could it wouldn't be a thoery , it would be a fact.

psychology = 1 big grouping of theories

and to be honest they change all the time, there are always new studies saying one thing and then there is a study that says the opposite that comes along later.

also unless a study was done on that particular person we are posting about there is no way to decipher which way the win blows on that particular theory because there are no 100% cases in large numbers or generalizations , if there were , it would be a fact not a theory...they could easily be an exception

, most of this post has been brought by what Da Grinch learned himself the 1st day he took Psych 101 some years back...so take it easy on the college man he might know what he's talking about.

and once again when it comes to MJ he and his circle of people say it came from his setbacks namely getting cut from HS as a sophmore and competing with his brother in the backyard, no one has studied Jordan close up , he says it , his family has said it and his friends have said it in interviews , that you cling to theories even at this point when common sense says give it up long ago, well i'm at a loss for words on that , so i'll just end the post here.

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"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together in terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior. I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."- Abraham Lincoln Sixth Debate with Steven A. Douglas at Quincy, Ill., Oct. 13, 1858

alphaorange

"so take it easy on the college man he might know what he's talking about."
Simply put, you don't. Is evolution a fact? If so, why? If not, why not?

Nothing you wrote disputing my point is factual in any way. I gave a simple request in my last post. You can't do it.

ehmunro

Honestly, with one exception, nothing he posted even rises to the level of a "theory" as almost all the posts lacked any scientific content at all. The only apparently scientific paper was hopelessly out of date. He's presenting pop bio-pyschology.

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