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Old 01-20-2008, 02:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Trade winds blowing.

apparently there is talk of a deal with the bucks concerning zach another player for charlie V, simmons and gadzuric.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...dime-080119-20

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Although concerns about Zach Randolph's off-court baggage -- and whether there's sufficient room in the Bucks' frontcourt for Randolph and Andrew Bogut -- led the Bucks to reject the Knicks' initial proposal, NBA front-office sources say that the possibility of New York and Milwaukee hooking up on a deal has not been completely extinguished.

The Knicks were apparently willing to take on three players who don't start (Charlie Villanueva, Bobby Simmons and Dan Gadzuric) and two of whom haven't lived up to their contracts (Simmons and Gadzuric) just for the right to shed Randolph after Isiah Thomas' failed experiment of pairing him with Eddy Curry. At least one more Knick would have to be included to make the salary-cap math work in the event there is a revival here; Renaldo Balkman, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler have all been mentioned.

The whole concept certainly strikes us as a worthy gamble for the Bucks, no matter what potential warts or pitfalls are presented by the prospect of acquiring Randolph. Similar concerns about the addition of Ruben Patterson last season proved unfounded and the Bucks' abundance of perimeter specialists (Michael Redd, Yi Jianlian, Mo Williams) would theoretically mesh well with Randolph's game. There would still be questions about Randolph and Bogut co-existing, true, but the limited contributions Milwaukee is getting from the three outgoing players and Randolph's standing as a proven 20/10 guy would seemingly offset any risk factors.

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Resuscitating this deal would require an about-face from Bucks owner Herb Kohl, who is ultra-conservative when it comes to team-building, as discussed here last week. He'll undoubtedly see Randolph as a much bigger gamble than Patterson because of the nearly $50 million over three seasons remaining on Zach's contract after this season.
to me its a bit much considering they apparently want another young player thrown in (the only guy i'd think is fair is morris , the guys mentioned nate , balkman and wilson chandler is overpaying big time)

and to be honest i dont think the knicks should even want villanueva , he isn't going to start ahed of Lee , and he would not fit in with the knicks defensive minded bench, i would probably try to flip him for a guy like shelden williams and a 2nd rounder.

on the plus side it is getting value , they traded the 8th pick in the 2005 draft and a salary albatross in june and if they got the 7th pick from that draft but had to take 2 smaller but still overpaid contracts, and possibly help the team in the process, a hustling big like gadzuric and a defensive minded small forward who supposedly can shoot....something to put out there when Qrich cant buy 1, you aren't losing anything.
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Old 01-20-2008, 02:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Trade winds blowing.

as long as they don't give up a pick and get guys who are paid WAYYYY TOO MUCH.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Trade winds blowing.

Charlie Villanueva is a better PF option than Randolph in my opinion. I however rather keep Randolph then getting the other two players.
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