TwinkieFoot

If the Bucks deal doesn't work, how about we focus on moving Zach to a team in need of low post scoring. The Bobcats as good as they are defensively seem to lack offensive punch. This might be a long shot but what about Zach Randolph, Ronaldo Balkman and Randolph Morris to the Bobcats for Gerald Wallace and Nazr Mohammed?

We'd be overpaying a bit in the deal but I believe it would be a trade that interests both teams. The Bobcats get more of a focal point offensively that may be able to open up the perimeter games of guys like Jason Richardson, Matt Carroll, Raymond Felton and forgotten lottery pick Adam Morrison. The Knicks get a young SF that is excellent as a defender (help and man), rebounds, steals and blocks shots along with a backup center for Eddy. Financially, the trade is mute on both ends since contracts on both sides are equally lengthy. Both teams are horrendous right now, so why not? Opinions?

Zuca

Bobcats won't take this deal, because both Wallace and JRich are their actual two best players.

I keep my trade idea: Randolph and QRich for Hughes and Gooden.

Maybe try to work something with Houston, like Randolph for Battier and Mike James, for an example.


Indiana? Randolph and filler for JO? (Jermaine O'Neal likes Isiah a lot and isn't working well this season with Indiana)

Just for thoughts...

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um, Gerald Wallace is their best player, and Nazr has a bigger impact there than Balkman or Morris would combined.

A deal for someone like Hughes+Gooden's probably the best you're gona get.

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Even that's a crap deal. trade him straight up for Kwame Brown and Milos Vujacic and if any picks can be obtained in the process just be happy. Otherwise, cut payroll.

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Randolph's virtually untradeable, unfortunately.

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TwinkieFoot

...And Zach Randolph would easily be the most talented player involved in the deal and easily more of a game changer than Jason Richardson or Gerald Wallace due to his post scoring skills and rebounding ability. I think people forget that earlier in the season, Randolph was averaging more than 11rpg easy and still was limited offensively. A key reason why it's just not working in New York is because of Eddy Curry whose game does not compliment Randolph's as our offensive and defensive schemes are currently constructed. In Charlotte there would not be such a problem because of the excellent defensive skills of Emeka Okafor; the ying to Randolph's yang.

Needless to say that you need playing time to make "a big impact." As Knick fans, we have all seen the all-around hustle oriented game that Balkman brings to the table. Unfortunately, his main problem at the moment is his inconsistent jump shot and a host of equally talented players. On the Bobcats, however, he would be one of the best backups on the team and help replace some of the game that Wallace provides. We all know what Nazr brings which is an excellent production but certainly not starter material on a playoff team. To me, the decision is an easy one to make for the Bobcats.

TwinkieFoot

Question, why would the Lakers want to break up what they have now when they've been playing excellent basketball? In addition to that, both their centers (Chris Mihm and Andrew Bynum) are out with injuries right now so I doubt they'd be willing to give up the last healthy one they have left in the middle of a playoff race.

TwinkieFoot

Then how did he wind up with the Knicks and how were other teams interested in him prior to Portland trading him?

TwinkieFoot

I don't think those are bad ideas necessarily but we'd just be adding more of the same players we have been adding the past couple of years. I personally love Hughes and Gooden's game but I do feel, however, that those two are not the proper fits on a team with an offensive focal point and is still loaded with offensive players. Gerald Wallace on the other hand brings so much more to the table at a high level of play. In addition to that, he'd help to solidify a relatively weak position for us at the 3 position and open up time for guys like David Lee and Wilson Chandler at the 3/4 positions. None of your trades really provide that aside from maybe the Rockets deal which I believe is unrealistic because of Adelman and the Rockets uptempo system that wouldn't mesh with Randolph.

seifer0406

Don't see Randolph changing any games in NY and any guarantees that he would be changing games else where, for the good of the team anyway.

That's not to say that Gerald Wallace is a winner, but at least he doesn't come with nearly as baggage personality wise or salary wise.

The only likely scenario that I see is Zach Randolph for Ben Wallace + fillers or Zach Randolph for Kwame + Radmanovic + fillers. You are not going to get a potential allstar like Gerald Wallace in a deal simply because of Randolph's value.

The Lakers deal is unlikely because if I'm LA I wouldn't want Randolph in there messing up Bynum's development. If I'm Chicago I would take a chance because I'm desperate for interior scoring.

TwinkieFoot

As much as you can say things about Gerald Wallace being a "potential all-star," Zach Randolph is an all-star caliber player. He is a particular player you can build your offensive attack around with his talent, which does not come along very often. Yes he does come with some baggage but Wallace's game is not near as much as Randolph without it. You do take a chance bringing in Randolph but is there really a significant loss considering it's much easier to find a Gerald Wallace? With the right players around him, Randolph can win games which was evident when he actually helped Portland to the playoffs early in his career and nearly defeat the Mavericks.

TwinkieFoot

Would Jermaine O'neal work with Eddy Curry in the post?

NewAgeBaller

Ok well just about every single Bobcats fan and I'm sure there management also, would be against bringing Zach Randolph in, let alone giving up their best player and defender in Gerald Wallace. Yes Randolph can probably average more points and rebounds - doesn't mean he's helping his team win. He has a history of holding personal achievement over team achievement because of his lack of passing, inability to pass out of double-teams, and horrible awareness. Not to mention his non-existent defence and hes even a horrible team defender, opposed to Wallace who can average 2 steals and 2 blocks a game for a whole season while playing excellent man- and team-defence aswell.

I won't even get into his off-court and locker-room problems.

well you're forgetting the key point that Kwame sucks. But yea, they still wouldn't do the trade coz Kwame is still better than Randolph at center, and when Bynum comes back Randolph's gona screw his development.

Isiah Thomas. I don't know if any other teams were interested in him like you said, but if they were I'm sure they arn't now. Why would the same teams be interested after he was acquired and trashed repetitively?