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**USSKittyHawk** · 02-03-2008, 10:37 AM

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There's bad and then there's the Knicks. Anytime Sonics fans want to groan and bemoan how terrible their team is, they need to take a long look at the Knicks and thank the basketball gods that Isiah Thomas isn't coaching this team.

Ok that's a little harsh. Isiah the coach isn't so bad, but Isiah the GM is horrible. Case in point is New York's broken down lineup of mismatching parts.

Spoke with Rainier Beach boys Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson afterward. Crawford is ready for a new change of venue. He told me he's making the best of a tough situation, but wouldn't mind being traded. He talked about returning to Seattle and playing here, but then a lot of the Seattle guys say that. Crawford seemed serious, however, there's nothing in the works and it probably will never happen because he essentially plays Kevin Durant's position.

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.co...ex.html#022052

Chan · 02-03-2008, 01:10 PM

I'm suprised a Seattle sportswriter would sympathize with anybody else. We're the ones losing the team.

I don't see Crawford in Seattle, but I wouldn't mind giving up a PG for Robinson.

rocketeer · 02-03-2008, 01:15 PM

crawford and durant don't play the same position. or at least they shouldn't. durant is a sf. crawford clearly is not.

Chan · 02-03-2008, 01:33 PM

Durant plays 2 guard.

rocketeer · 02-03-2008, 01:59 PM

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Durant plays 2 guard.

durant might play 2 guard, but 2 guard is not durant's position. durant is a small forward. just because seattle did a ****ty job and used two top 5 picks to take two small forwards and now is doing an even dumber thing and playing their best player out of position doesn't change what durant is.

Chan · 02-03-2008, 03:42 PM

On what? He's starts at SG, and he plays SG most of the time, therefore he is a 2. Duh. Are you gonna argue that Marion isn't a PF? Or insist Hakim Warrick is 4?

rocketeer · 02-03-2008, 08:49 PM

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On what? He's starts at SG, and he plays SG most of the time, therefore he is a 2. Duh. Are you gonna argue that Marion isn't a PF? Or insist Hakim Warrick is 4?

on the fact that small forward is by far durant's best position and that it will be his position longterm. if the sonics want to keep playing durant at sg, they can but he's just going to continue to struggle. he's as pure a small forward as there is in the league. he's not big enough to play pg(though he will probably be able to get by there for small stretches) and he's not quick enough and doesn't have the handle to play shooting guard well for long periods of time.

like i said, just because the sonics are doing a ****ty job with him currently doesn't change what his real position is.

Chan · 02-03-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketeer

on the fact that small forward is by far durant's best position and that it will be his position longterm. if the sonics want to keep playing durant at sg, they can but he's just going to continue to struggle. he's as pure a small forward as there is in the league. he's not big enough to play pg(though he will probably be able to get by there for small stretches) and he's not quick enough and doesn't have the handle to play shooting guard well for long periods of time.

like i said, just because the sonics are doing a ****ty job with him currently doesn't change what his real position is.

The fact is, Durant hasn't played SF all year and for good reason. He's a wing, simple and plain. He's too weak to guard the 3, but his long arms make him a good man defender at the 2. His post game is nonexistent and he plays like a less streetball oriented Crawford.

If Durant isn't a 2, then Al Horford isn't a 5, and Marion and Josh Smith aren't 4s. It doesn't matter what you think his position is; it matters what position he plays.

rocketeer · 02-03-2008, 09:41 PM

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The fact is, Durant hasn't played SF all year and for good reason. He's a wing, simple and plain. He's too weak to guard the 3, but his long arms make him a good man defender at the 2. His post game is nonexistent and he plays like a less streetball oriented Crawford.

If Durant isn't a 2, then Al Horford isn't a 5, and Marion and Josh Smith aren't 4s. It doesn't matter what you think his position is; it matters what position he plays.

what matters is where he should play. that is his position. durant should be at small forward. and small forwards are wings. and durant would be a much better defender at small forward that at sg. he still mostly has his height and length advantage there but he's not giving up speed and quickness. just because durant can shoot doesn't change the fact that the position he should be playing is small forward.

**R-Star** · 02-03-2008, 09:44 PM

Durant should be playing SF, because of his body type. He needs to put on some pounds to be effective at the 3 though.

Chan · 02-03-2008, 09:57 PM

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what matters is where he should play. that is his position. durant should be at small forward. and small forwards are wings. and durant would be a much better defender at small forward that at sg. he still mostly has his height and length advantage there but he's not giving up speed and quickness. just because durant can shoot doesn't change the fact that the position he should be playing is small forward.

Durant is not a better defender at 3. He affects more jumpshots than post moves or layups, so he is suited to be more of a perimeter shot defender. Ideally he'd weigh more and play the 3 but he doesn't. A lot of players change their positions, and Durant is no different. If he plays 2, he is a 2.

rocketeer · 02-03-2008, 10:14 PM

small forward is not a post position. small forwards are almost always perimeter players. no sure what you're talking about saying that durant isn't a small forward because he's a wing. small forwards are wings. at small forward, he won't be defending the post and protecting thr rim from layups.

Chan · 02-04-2008, 12:25 AM

SFs get in the post more. The difference between a 2 and a 3 is getting Ronnie Brewer on you instead of Kirilenko, or Iverson/Anthony Carter instead of Carmelo, or Kevin Martin instead of Artest, and vice versa. Durant is weak for a 2, don't mention a 3. So that's what he plays.

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