TwinkieFoot

I say a resounding NO!!!!! Those guys may be a step in the right direction to what we want to run as a team but not at their price tag considering that they are not likely to change much. The only way I'd gain some interest is if our long-term contracts entered the picture and we were compensated with draft picks. Besides this happening, I don't see the point considering we already have a Barbosa already in Nate Robinson.

A trade that I would like to see happen, that I have lobbied for for a while is Josh Smith to New York. There have been rumors about the Hawks not being able to keep both Joshes in Atlanta which could only help the Knicks. I like both players but Smith especially because of his youth, versatility and ability to anchor a defense. With Al Horford being the beast that he is (and a natural PF), I think letting Smith go could be a possibility if the Hawks were compensated well.

I think a package of Eddy Curry could all but get the job done in a sign and trade; Curry would give them a 5 that would allow Horford to slide to his natural PF position and add low post scoring to the team. We'd get Josh Smith who certainly would be an excellent fit at the 4 if we are running the ball. If we land Derrick Rose in the draft, then we're looking at a pretty solid core to move forward with.

HB

Ah there goes all that talk about D'Antoni adapting a new style. Obviously he is looking to implement the Suns high octane offense in NY

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I see no way in hell you trade Curry for Josh Smith, Josh Smith is a significantly better player. Barbosa is better than Nate, they are not comparable IMO. Barbosa is a scorer, yes, but a lot more efficient.

As for trading for Barbosa and Diaw, I don't know... tough call.

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silverpaw1786

jesus, knicks fans are funny. Nate Robinson isn't half the player barbosa is. Between his speed and shooting ability, Barbosa is much better before defense even enters the picture. Secondly, you don't have anyone to offer for Josh Smith, unless you get the #1 pick. Smith is an all-star caliber player already. He and Joe Johnson were the only players who were able to win against the celtics but they managed to pull off 3 games. noone wants Eddy Curry or his abnormally large breasts.

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Damian Necronamous

Here's what I propose...

Trade #1: Jamal Crawford, Malik Rose, Nate Robinson and Renaldo Balkman to Phoenix in exchange for Leandro Barbosa and Boris Diaw

Trade #2: Stephon Marbury to Cleveland in exchange for Wally Szczerbiak and Eric Snow

Trade #3: Eddy Curry to Toronto in exchange for Rasho Nesterovic and Maceo Baston

Draft: Let's say the Knicks get the 5th pick and take Jerryd Bayless. Eric Gordon and O.J. Mayo could also be available here.

The 2008-2009 Knicks
PG: Leandro Barbosa...Eric Snow
SG: Jerryd Bayless...Mardy Collins
SF: Quentin Richardson...Wally Szczerbiak...Wilson Chandler
PF: Zach Randolph...Boris Diaw...Jared Jeffries...Maceo Baston
C: David Lee...Rasho Nesterovic...Jerome James

Phoenix does the first trade to free up some cap room and give themselves some depth. Robinson, Crawford and Balkman all fit well in their style of play, and Malik Rose could even get some minutes behind Stoudemire. The Suns will also have the 15th pick in the draft, which they'll probably use on a big man (Koufos? R. Lopez?)

Cleveland does the second trade because it's an easy gamble on a talented PG. Snow and Szczerbiak are both expiring and Snow isn't going to be used at all. The Cavs already have Pavlovic and Devin Brown at the other swing spots next to LeBron and they could easily replace what Wally has been giving them through the draft (19th pick) or through free agency. They are going to be spending that $20 million anyway, so they might as well spend it on a one-year gamble that could end up giving them 14-15ppg.

Finally, Toronto takes on Curry for Nesterovic (expiring) to add an extra scorer into the mix down low. Curry could fit well next to Bosh, and getting out of the NY spotlight and onto a talented up-and-coming team would do him some good. It's definitely a move that Colangelo would be willing to make. Even if Curry isn't a ground-shaking player for them, he's still an upgrade over Rasho Nesterovic.

All in all, the Knicks would have added two great young guards in Barbosa and Bayless, finally gotten David Lee a starting role and they'll still have $30M in expirings with Snow, Wally and Nesterovic. Better yet, they will have gotten rid of several questionable characters while bringing in veterans who give much better balance to the team.

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SG: Kobe Bryant, Sasha Vujacic, Sun Yue, Joe Crawford
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ChosenFEW

talent wise sure ill go for it...



salary wise, hell NOOO!!!!

9 mill for diaw 7 mill for barbosa na uhhhh


i want my team to be able to sign a dam free agent for once!! a good one at that

let marbs deal run out!

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silverpaw1786

Damian, do you really think the cavs or raptors would be willing to part with expiring contracts for headache players like marbury or curry?

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USSKittyHawk

Exactly Chosen, why trade away expiring contracts for these Sun players? If we do that, then Walsh was lying when he implied he will try to get the Knicks under the cap by the time "real players" like Lebron, Paul (who I want badly), Wade, become free agents. It makes no sense, rebuild and stop pasting ****! Damn!

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Yes, and I explained why.

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TwinkieFoot

Josh Smith effects the game in more ways than Curry but I would not nearly go as far as to claim that he is a "significantly better player." The game essentially boils down to putting up more points than the other team. Two immediate ways you can contribute to that as a player is to score the ball yourself or create good looks for your teammates. On a team like the Hawks that has pretty good backcourt players, Curry would be excellent at both and change the game more.

Smith can not do either of those things well offensively, so even though he can effect the game in multiple fashions, it doesn't mean that he changes the game moreso than Curry. For instance, Gerald Wallace is a better shot blocker, defender, plays the lane better and rebounds better than Paul Pierce. I think we'd all agree that Paul Pierce changes a game more though.

Please don't give me any garbage about Barbosa and Nate Robinson. Both of them are nearly identical players. The only differences between them is that Barbosa is taller, has gotten more playing time over the years and has played in a system more conducive to his style of play. Both are two-guards that are not tall enough, both are good scorers due to their amazing athleticism and both are about equal defenders (aside from when height comes into play). Hell, Nate even had better numbers than him aside from scoring in a system that certainly does not inflate his stats, boast Steve Nash and several all-stars, or provide him with nearly as many opportunities off the bench. I might even go as far to say that Nate might be the more valuable player because of his contract.

TwinkieFoot

Alright, you should obviously explain to me how Barbosa is so much of a better player than Nate Robinson, since your seeing something I'm not. Both are two guards to small to play the position full-time, both are excellent scorers because of their amazing athleticism, both are about equal defenders (if height isn't a factor), and both are erractic ball handlers. The only difference between the two is that Barbosa is taller, plays in a system that is more conducive to the style of play these guys use, gets more minutes to do so and Barbosa has several all-stars to help his game look better than it is. In spite of all that, the numbers are relatively equal across the board. I'd go as far to say that Nate Robinson is a more valuable player than Barbosa because of his contract. Hell, give Nate Shaq, Nash, Amare and Hill and I think we could overrate him as much as Barbosa.

P.S., Nate is as good if not a better shooter than Barbosa. Give him free reigns to dictate how many shots he jacks up and I gaurantee him could do more.

You foolish if you think the no.1 overall pick in the draft is equivalent to Josh Smith. You also appear to not have payed to close attention to the playoffs against the Celtics because Horford was the more valuable player in the series than Smith. In fact, Smith actually played beneath himself during the series. Considering both play the same position and that Smith is up for a contract extension, it should be pretty obvious that he is the more expendable player. Although he still is an excellent player, there is no need for duplication. Exchanging him for Eddy Curry would make a lot of sense since he can score in the paint which no other Hawk can do consistently. The Hawks had interest in him when he was a free agent and doubt that they have lost much since when you consider how much a low post player can change their offense for the better. He gives Joe Johnson some breathing room offensively and even may make him a better offensive player by giving him better looks.

TwinkieFoot

Are you aware of the fact that Marbury himself is an expiring contract?

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