One predominant trade rumor that's out there is a little bit anachronistic, failing to take into account the radical change of direction in the Knicks' front office. This one has Zach Randolph, who truly is on the table, going to Memphis for Darko Milicic and Marko Jaric. No, it's not that Serbs are simply unpopular in Memphis, it's that neither Darko nor Marko are likely to be huge impact players next season.
Milicic has yet to live up to the hype that comes along with being a number two overall pick. Part of that has to do with his not getting an opportunity to play early on, and part of it is he's always asked to play out of position. He's not a center, and has no idea what to do with the ball when he catches it with his back to the basket. I suppose the logic here is that Mike D'Antoni could use him like he used Amare Stoudemire - more of a catch-and-shoot type of offense. Sadly, Milicic will never be close to as good as Amare.
As for Jaric, he's a solid bench player who can drill the three, handle the ball some, and create offense. The problem is, put these two guys together and it's crazy to trade Zach Randolph for them. Randolph is 20 and 10 waiting to happen, and with the right leaders around him he could be an All-Star. It's easy to see why Memphis would do this, but the Knicks? This is no longer the all-Isiah team, with the end game seemingly just to acquire as many bad contracts and underachieving players as possible.
Don't line up for your Randolph jerseys just yet, Grizzlies fans.
One bad contract for two? No Thanks. Unless for some freak reason D'Antoni sees Darko as the answer at the 4, but we already have Danilo who he saw as the answer at the 4 so, yeah, not sure.
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One bad contract for two? No Thanks. Unless for some freak reason D'Antoni sees Darko as the answer at the 4, but we already have Danilo who he saw as the answer at the 4 so, yeah, not sure.
Milicic could be a legit 5. Although he can not play exclusively with his back to the basket, he does have moves there, along with a face up game. I actually think he is also a better defender than people give him credit for and an underrated passer. Will he live up to being the no.2 pick in a draft that includes LeBron, Wade, Melo and Bosh? I do not know and highly doubt it but that does not change the fact that he is a good player with room for growth. Do I want him starting ahead of Curry? I'm not sure but I would entertain the thought of bringing him in.
P.S., Milicic has just one more year after this upcoming season. He is far from being a bad contract. I also feel Jaric is reasonable within a particular system and depending on who we'd give up. In either case, the deal would save us a **** load of cash so from a financial aspect, it is a doer.
lol, I actually think Randolph is a poor fit for the Grizzlies as well. Talent wise, he is everything they need but he falls short in the maturity/character department. Randolph needs structure from veteran influences to make his contributions on the court worth wild, so I think it would be in the best interest for the Grizzlies to pass.
I'm in favor of the trade personally , D'Antoni needs guys that will buy in to the system more than he needs the talents of Randolph.
Darko is talented ...but soft where it counts , he doesn't set a tone defnsively , he is big agile and athletic and can block shots and is not good enough offensively to give the ball to much .
marko is just a sound bench player who is 6'7 and can play both guard spots...both are overpaid and i believe both come off the books in 2010.
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If both come off the books in 2010, we should do it just for that reason, and stick Darko in as a starter. I actually would like to see what D'Antoni does with him.
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6. SS: Miguel Tejada
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8. LF: Darryl Strawberry
9. DH: Dave Winfield
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2. Warren Spahn Winningest LEFTY ever
3. Phil Niekro Knuckle em up
4. Dwight Gooden A stud before the drugs
5. John Clarkson won 51 games in 1 season. 278 in 8 seasons. 300 game winner.
CL: Trevor Hoffman
This is coming straight from a blazer fan. If you can get rid of Z-BO do it!!! I dont care what you get in return. Addition by subtraction trust me!!!!!!!!!!!
Like some said, talent wise he is a good fit for Memphis, but Grizzlies actually are not a good fit for him. I still think that Indiana would be a good place for him actually. Jim O'Brien can bring the best from him, more than D'Antoni, in my opinion.
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This is coming straight from a blazer fan. If you can get rid of Z-BO do it!!! I dont care what you get in return. Addition by subtraction trust me!!!!!!!!!!!
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If the Knicks turned down anything the Clippers could have offered for Zach Randolph, how is Darko and Jaric any better?
Not a Zach Randolph fan and would have taken the Clipper deal personally, but agree that Memphis fans should not get excited.
I have to agree whole heartedly with both of the two Posters above after watching Zach Randolph performance since Rasheed Wallace left Portland.
Here's another Poster from another Knick Forum:
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Why is a 20-10 Zach Randolph so hard to trade for equal value?????
His contract is under $50 million this offseason.
Why would a team expect a first round pick in a package with Zach Randolph in a trade?
dont they know that Zach is a career 20-10 player.
Can someone answer these questions?
These are the reasons why I believe that Owner Dolan has did it again in hiring some more incompetent (Big Name) people to run this Knick Team like Laydumb, Isiah, and now Walsh & D'Antoni.
While the Griz were courting Smith they also had trade discussions regarding New York Knicks power forward Zach Randolph. Those discussions — mostly internal – are still ongoing as Randolph has been made available.
The Griz are willing to part with Darko Milicic (last year’s big free agent signing) in a package that wouldn’t require a core player (OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, Mike Conley, etc). What the brain trust seems to be debating is whether Randolph fits the Grizzlies’ style on and off the court.
Randolph is a bonafide low-post scorer who can shoot along the perimeter and rebound. But he doesn’t offer much on defense, something the Griz desperately want to upgrade and Randolph’s character issues may present a problem.
That said, the Griz need talent. Randolph would beef up a thin power forward corps of Hakim Warrick and rookie Darrell Arthur. They’ve got a group of “nice guys” so adding one knucklehead in Randolph shouldn’t be a big deal. Although second-year head coach Marc Iavaroni struggled at times effectively communicating with players, he is credited with helping Phoenix big man Amare Stoudemire take his game to the next level.
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Well... Kevin O'Neill could also help him improving his defensive game. But they would be stupid if they trade for him without including Jaric AND Buckner and his bad contracts.
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