Who should we select with the 8th pick? The Official 2009 Knick Draft Thread
What is your opinion of what we should do with the 8th selection? Curry? Flynn? Try and trade up? Shop it around for expirings and maybe a later pick? What route should we take with the 8th pick?
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1. CF: Tyrus Cobb
2. 2B: Pete Rose
3. 1B: Mark McGwire
4. C: Mike Piazza
5. 3B: Cal Ripken JR
6. SS: Miguel Tejada
7. RF: Mel Ott
8. LF: Darryl Strawberry
9. DH: Dave Winfield
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1. Walter Johnson 2nd winningest RIGHTY ever
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CL: Trevor Hoffman
Now THAT would be foolish. I'd rather trade up for Jennings then take Curry at 8. I said who I wanted in another post. I don't want a PG version of a slower Allan Houston thinking he can be the lead guard of this team. We need a TRUE PG with vision, passing, ballhandling and the ability to create plays for others before the defense even sees them.
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The starting lineup for YOUR Knicksfan's legends Ghost's Dungeon Legends Baseball draft.
1. CF: Tyrus Cobb
2. 2B: Pete Rose
3. 1B: Mark McGwire
4. C: Mike Piazza
5. 3B: Cal Ripken JR
6. SS: Miguel Tejada
7. RF: Mel Ott
8. LF: Darryl Strawberry
9. DH: Dave Winfield
Starting Rotation and Closer
1. Walter Johnson 2nd winningest RIGHTY ever
2. Warren Spahn Winningest LEFTY ever
3. Phil Niekro Knuckle em up
4. Dwight Gooden A stud before the drugs
5. John Clarkson won 51 games in 1 season. 278 in 8 seasons. 300 game winner.
CL: Trevor Hoffman
Curry is a very good passer, he just isn't going to do a whole lot in terms of taking guys off the dribble. Plus with the offense we run there's zero doubt in my mind he can do a good job running the PG spot. He would be super effective with the pick and roll, and his vision would help set up guys for easier looks especially in transition.
If we are trading up it better be for Rubio. He would be a terror running our offense, and he will be able to defend at a high level from the get go. Plus he already runs the pick and roll better than a good chunk of NBA PG's. I could live with Jennings too though.
If we stay at 8 we should pick Jonny Flynn. I don't know what there is to not like about him. Great athletic ability, great handle, great vision, and he can finish around the rim. His jumper is streaky, but improving. Plus he too would be a terror in pick and roll situations.
I like both Flynn and Rubio very much. Just not a fan of Stephen Curry at our pick. I agree that Flynn and Rubio would both be amazing in our system, as would Jennings I think because he can run a fast-paced offense too and plays strong defense.
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The starting lineup for YOUR Knicksfan's legends Ghost's Dungeon Legends Baseball draft.
1. CF: Tyrus Cobb
2. 2B: Pete Rose
3. 1B: Mark McGwire
4. C: Mike Piazza
5. 3B: Cal Ripken JR
6. SS: Miguel Tejada
7. RF: Mel Ott
8. LF: Darryl Strawberry
9. DH: Dave Winfield
Starting Rotation and Closer
1. Walter Johnson 2nd winningest RIGHTY ever
2. Warren Spahn Winningest LEFTY ever
3. Phil Niekro Knuckle em up
4. Dwight Gooden A stud before the drugs
5. John Clarkson won 51 games in 1 season. 278 in 8 seasons. 300 game winner.
CL: Trevor Hoffman
Without sounding too unkind - it doesn't matter if Knicks fans are/aren't fans of Curry. Lebron is. And at this point, isn't everything their doing an effort to sign him?
Without sounding too unkind - it doesn't matter if Knicks fans are/aren't fans of Curry. Lebron is. And at this point, isn't everything their doing an effort to sign him?
Exactly. Plus worst case scenario with Curry is he is just a great shooter. He will be one of the 5-10 best shooters in the league right from the start.
What position this past season were we the most vulnerable and weak at?
should be the question asked?
PG?
SG?
SF?
PF?
C?
What position were we the most strongest at this past season?
I'll answer that?
PG-with Duhon and Nate holding it down above average.
SF-with Chandler and Harrington holding it down to average.
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The players in this weak 2009 draft class will not be able to give us the proven NBA performance of Duhon, Nate, Chandler, and Harrington, untill their 4th to 5th season (2012-13 season).
It would be a good night for the Knicks if guard Stephen Curry fell to No. 8.
It would be a great night for the Knicks if Arizona power forward Jordan Hill fell, too.
The Post has learned Knicks president Donnie Walsh has secretly coveted Hill, the 6-foot-10 big man whom they would take in a heartbeat over Curry. Walsh told confidants that after the draft order was established he thought a better chance existed of Hill slipping to them. That's because some teams picking before the Knicks weren't in the market for bigs.
i think hill would be a much better selection than just about any guard ...but i doubt he'll make to 8 .
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I honestly don't see stardom for Hill like I do for Jennings. I think Brandon Jennings is a future STAR. I think Johnny Flynn is a future star. I think Tyreke Evans could be a future star. I think JRue Holliday could be a future star. But if Jordan Hill falls he's a great fit for D'Antoni's system, and therefore would be an amazing pick. I would very much support picking him, because he's a 4 in the Amare mold that can flat out run the floor.
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The starting lineup for YOUR Knicksfan's legends Ghost's Dungeon Legends Baseball draft.
1. CF: Tyrus Cobb
2. 2B: Pete Rose
3. 1B: Mark McGwire
4. C: Mike Piazza
5. 3B: Cal Ripken JR
6. SS: Miguel Tejada
7. RF: Mel Ott
8. LF: Darryl Strawberry
9. DH: Dave Winfield
Starting Rotation and Closer
1. Walter Johnson 2nd winningest RIGHTY ever
2. Warren Spahn Winningest LEFTY ever
3. Phil Niekro Knuckle em up
4. Dwight Gooden A stud before the drugs
5. John Clarkson won 51 games in 1 season. 278 in 8 seasons. 300 game winner.
CL: Trevor Hoffman
jordan hill an amazing pick? other than being an inch shorter, how is he any different than david lee? you need something you don't have (PG), not a copy of what you already have.
by the way, at this point, you'll be lucky to get Curry or Holiday at 8. Flynn might be realistic. I love the guy, but I don't know how much of a fan the Knicks are.
jordan hill an amazing pick? other than being an inch shorter, how is he any different than david lee? you need something you don't have (PG), not a copy of what you already have.
by the way, at this point, you'll be lucky to get Curry or Holiday at 8. Flynn might be realistic. I love the guy, but I don't know how much of a fan the Knicks are.
Jordan Hill is actually listed at 6-10, although I believe he's close to 6-11. That would make him as tall as Lee, if not taller at the very least. He also brings a lot more intangibles to the table than Lee such as shot blocker and the ability to develop an actual scoring game. Should he be made available, I think we should take him especially considering that David Lee is a free agent and may walk.
Gortat should be a target...seriously. We need a big banger and Gortat is physically superior to Hill in every way. We also need guards. Does anyone really think Duhon, Hughes, and Nate are long-term answers?
Gortat should be a target...seriously. We need a big banger and Gortat is physically superior to Hill in every way. We also need guards. Does anyone really think Duhon, Hughes, and Nate are long-term answers?
But physical superiority is not the end-all be all of this conversation and you know Gortat has been a guy I pegged as a must-have before reporters started hyping him up. Hill brings a much higher-skill set and potential than either of the aforementioned players. I fail to see why we can not have both Hill and Gortat at the 4 and 5 positions respectively. That would inevitability build a much better defensive team than relying solely on Gortat and then Hill can fill in the blanks offensively.
As much as I believe that we need to upgrade our backcourt, big men remain a premium in this league. I realize that changes in play has resulted in greater emphasis on backcourt play but the plethora of similarly skilled players at these positions make filling in the blanks there a lot less difficult than in the front court. Look at the number of gems that have been picked in the later part of the draft the past couple of years and an overwhelming majority of them have been backcourt players.