King Sancho Fantastic

Amnesty can only be used for players signed by the same team before the CBA.

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Hyperion

No, it can be used for any contract signed before the new cba was inked. Every team gets one waiver otherwise every team under the cap would have balked like crazy.

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King Sancho Fantastic

That's what I meant. You can amnesty any player that was signed to your team before the CBA was signed.

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Bogg

Yea, as I understand it, you can only amnesty players who were already on your roster and under their current contract when the CBA was put into place, which means no trading for a guy and amnestying him after the season. I used to think it was able to be used on any contract signed before the CBA, but someone here pointed me in the direction of an article that explained otherwise.

Hyperion

Like arenas was amnestied by the magic when he was signed by the wizards. This cba allows every team to have an amnesty clause for any player signed by any team before the new cba was signed. So if a team were to trade for Kobe, they could amnesty him provided they didn't already amnesty a player.

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Bogg

Orlando acquired Arenas in the middle of the '10-'11 season, before the new CBA went into effect. It doesn't matter who the contract was originally signed with, but they had to be on the roster at the time of the CBA being accepted.

Dre

I'm rewatching this Nets-Knicks that I missed the finish of last night and the Knicks could definitely use his size. They were getting killed on the boards down the stretch. Not to say he's a great rebounder but he'd be better for them down there than Melo.

Furthermore there were a lot of short Carmelo iso possessions so kill that noise acting like they suddenly have so much ball movement Amare would ruin...the shots are just falling that's all.

I'm gonna stay with the idea that this Melo at 4 is a little matchup wrinkle that works against lesser teams but come the playoffs they will need that traditional frontcourt...


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Hyperion

"According to a draft of the rule, a team can use the provision in any off-season, subject to two restrictions: the player must have been signed before July 1, 2011, and must be on the team's current roster." LINK


The Amare point isn't so much about offense as it is about defense. The Knicks are finally playing defense with athleticism. That means that they will have TWO non-defenders in Amare and Melo when Amare comes back. That's one too many non-defenders.

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Bogg

........That's exactly what I said. You skipped over the "must be on the current roster" part, didn't you?

Hyperion

.... As in they have to be on the team at the time of amnesty. I.e. they can't amnesty a player on another team as part of a trade or something.

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XxIrvingxX

...so you tell Amare to play some god damn defense. Now this is just me of course going out on a limb and assuming that coaches aren't that stupid.

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Hyperion

Dude hasn't raised his hands above his head on defense for like seven years.

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E.H. Munro

Maybe the Knicks should just tell him to take up bowling and shoot for the injured player exception?

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Bogg

That's not what it means at all. We know that you can't trade amnesty exceptions like they're draft picks. "Current roster" refers to the roster that was in place at the time the new CBA was accepted. You can't trade for a guy, or have traded for a guy since the new CBA, and later amnesty him.

gi0rdun

They should trade Amar'e to the Thunder somehow.

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